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ISIS claims downing Russian airliner in Sinai in reprisal for Moscow’s Syria air strikes
http://www.debka.com ^ | 10/31/15 | Special Report

Posted on 11/07/2015 8:19:43 AM PST by kindred

Families receive news of no survivors at St. Petersburg airport. "The fighters of the Islamic State were able to down a Russian plane over Sinai province that was carrying over 220 Russian crusaders. They were all killed, thanks be to God," said a statement from the Sinai affiliate of ISIS after a Metrojet Airbus 321, carrying 217 Russian tourists and 7 crew from Sharm el-Sheikh to St. Petersburg, crashed in central Sinai early Saturday morning, Oct. 31. There were no survivors. President Vladimir Putin declared Sunday a national day of mourning after sending messages of sympathy to their families. The terrorists’ statement went on to say: “You should know, Russians and your allies, that you have no security on Muslim land or its airspace… The daily murder of scores of innocents in Syria by your air bombardments will bring upon you disasters… Just as you kill, so you will be killed…”|

Russia's Minister of Transport Maxim Sokolov strongly denied as “inaccurate” what he called “assorted information that the Russian passenger plane was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile fired by terrorists.”

debkafile early Saturday attributed the disaster to the ISIS Sinai branch Ansar al-Bait Maqdis, while Moscow and Cairo issued confusing claims as to its cause. They included a distress call from the pilot of the Russian plane to the Egyptian control following a technical fault with a request to reroute the plan to El Arish or Cairo.

However, aviation sources say this exchange never took place and the Airbus abruptly disappeared off the screens indicating a sudden catastrophe. The Egyptian daily Al-Ahram Arabic quoted the head of Egypt’s Air Navigation as admitting later that the plane’s pilot did not request an emergency landing before crashing. Responsibility for the air disaster claimed by ISIS takes the war on the Islamic terrorists down to a new security low for all the countries in the region, including Israel. Lufthansa and Air France airlines have suspended all flights over the Egyptian Peninsula. President Putin will be under pressure to decide whether or not to expand Russia’s war on the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq or pull back. debkafile reported earlier Saturday. A Russian civilian plane with 217 passengers and 7 crew aboard crashed, and is belived shot down by a missile, over Sinai over Sinai early Saturday morning, Oct. 31, shortly after taking off from the Sinai resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh for St. Petersburg. Initial reporting on the fate of the plane was confused and is still not completely clear. It was first reported to be missing after contact was lost with Egyptian air control; it was then said to be safely on its way to Russia over Turkey. Russian aviation sources then reported the A321 to be missing over Cypriot air space. Finally, the Egyptian prime minister’s office Egyptian prime minister’s office confirmed that a Russian passenger plane had crashed n central Sinai and a cabinet level crisis committee had been formed to deal with the crash. The airliner owned by the small airline Kogalymavia disappeared from screen 23 minutes after takeoff from Sharm el-Sheikh. There were many families with children aboard.

debkafile reports: The first claim by Russian aviation sources that the plane had gone missing over Cyprus was an attempt to draw attention from the likelihood that it was shot down over Sinai, where the former Ansar al-Miqdas, which has renamed itself ISIS-Sinai, maintains its main strongholds. Moscow is reluctant to admit that the Islamic State may have chosen to retaliate for the buildup of Russian forces in Syria and Russia ari strikes on its bases in Syria. If the airline was indeed shot down by the Sinai branch of the Islamic State, the Russians are finding that ISIS is fully capable of striking at the least expected place and most vulnerable spot of its enemy.

On board the plane were 17 children, along with 200 adults and seven crew, said aviation authorities. There are no signs of survivors.

Confirming the deliberate attempt at confusion, Moscow and Cairo both stated that the plane had disappeared from the radar 23 minutes after takeoff from Sharm El-Sheikh.

This is refuted by the discovery of the wreckage, a few minutes ago, completely gutted and destroyed, and a short distance away near Bir Al-Hassaneh, in the central Sinai Jabal al-Halal mountain range, where Ansar Beit al-Miqdas terrorists are holed up and which is almost inaccessible to rescue teams. It is to this stronghold that debkafile reported in recent months that ISIS sent officers, former senior members of Saddam Hussein’s army, to set up a major campaign against the Egyptian army, along with advanced anti-air missile systems smuggled into Sinai and the Gaza Strip from Libya for this campaign. Israel air force jets no longer carry out low flights in the areas within range of the Islamic groups armed with these missiles. Updating:

In another attempt to disguise the cause of the disaster, Russian and Egyptian officials now say that the pilot of the Russian plane reported a technical fault after takeoff and asked to be rerouted to Cairo or El-Arish. Russian and Egyptian officials have meanwhile announced they are forming commissions of inquiry to investigate the cause of the tragedy. Official condolences were relayed to the waiting families the airport.

The Sinai branch of the Islamic State has developed a highly competent intelligence-gathering network, debkafile’s sources report, operated by local Bedouin tribesmen who track the slightest movements in the Peninsula. The Egyptian army and the American troops serving at the big the Multinational Force base there are fully aware of the round-the-clock surveillance maintained by the terrorists at Egyptian resorts, using staff at hotels, restaurants and the local airfield as inside informers. Ansar has never yet harmed the tourist traffic in Sinai. But once ISIS decided to use it to hit back at Russia’s intensified military intervention in the Syrian conflict, the Islamists would not have found it hard to find out when the Russian airliner was due to take off from the Red Sea resort, chart its route north along the western coast of the Gulf of Aqaba up to Dahab and then turn west towards central Sinai and head for the Mediterranean. All the terrorists had to do was to lay a missile ambush for the plane from the Jabal Halal eminence of 876 meters (2,865 ft).

Had the crash been the result of a technical fault, as Moscow and Cairo claim, it would not have been so completely gutted but broken up into large fragments. The total destruction could only have been caused b y an explosion either inside the A321 or a direct missile hit.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
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Who knows? God knows and there are three theories but only one can be true.
1 posted on 11/07/2015 8:19:43 AM PST by kindred
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To: kindred

Your move Vlad


2 posted on 11/07/2015 8:20:58 AM PST by Eddie01 (Soul Finger by the Bar-Kays)
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To: Eddie01
Vlad: Glass parking lot NOW.
3 posted on 11/07/2015 8:23:43 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: kindred
"carrying 220 Russian crusaders"

That is, 220 Russian TOURISTS who may or may not have been Christians, none of whom were engaging in any sort of military action or religious proselytization. ISIS is just plain nuts.
4 posted on 11/07/2015 8:24:00 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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ISIS is just plain nuts.

Sadistically nuts. They enjoy it.

5 posted on 11/07/2015 8:27:46 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Steve_Seattle

Dunno about these Debka folks, if this is tinfoil or ISIS did exactly this. I would THINK... that although ISIS knows Obama is a paper tiger, Russia isn’t, and that all Obama would do if Russia retaliated would be to weakly wail. (The US Tea Party would in the meantime be like, Putin for President.)

This is the “God” translation of Islamic “Allah” being used here, which is typically a sign of P.C. media slant.


6 posted on 11/07/2015 8:32:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Vlad wears his Orthodox affiliation on his sleeve so they’re counting all Rooskies as crusaders now.

From ISIS’ mouth to the actual God’s ears if so... if crusaders they accuse, may crusaders they get.


7 posted on 11/07/2015 8:34:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

If any kind of madness is somehow physically possible, the devil can egg it on and fuel it.


8 posted on 11/07/2015 8:37:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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That never stopped the Chechens. Remember death is glory to the Islamic radicals.


9 posted on 11/07/2015 8:37:28 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Steve_Seattle
"carrying 220 Russian crusaders"

Yeah, ISIS is nuts; they are also filthy, amoral murderers. But there is a method to their madness here. A slice of today's liberals will pick up on the "crusader" thing, and attempt to defend ISIS's actions.

And a much bigger slice of the Arab street will also go along with the "crusader" thing.

As a side note, Eisenhower called his offensive in Europe a crusade.

And after 9/11 Bush II repeatedly called the coming American response a crusade. but he backed off of that after he was told that some people would be offended. He should have said instead, "Hell, yes, it's a crusade."

10 posted on 11/07/2015 8:38:15 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

If any kind of madness is somehow physically possible, the devil can egg it on and fuel it. (If the protection of God fades, which I pray the opposite of.)


11 posted on 11/07/2015 8:38:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MarMema

It’s a little harder to kill citizens. I’m certain Putin would be happy to accommodate the wishes of strangers for, er, glory.


12 posted on 11/07/2015 8:39:45 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: kindred

Debka - it probably isn’t true.


13 posted on 11/07/2015 8:45:07 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Leaning Right

It shows how much the protective vengeance of the Lord (which Christians know) is feared. The only way a party like ISIS can head it off is to pull various satanic con jobs on would-be believers.

Turning the other cheek was never intended as a collectivist command unto group suicide at the hands of an implacable horde — this is intended as a continual inter-Christian forgiveness. Situations calling for crusades are where “love your neighbor” is more important, and where the sword bidden by Christ could make sense.


14 posted on 11/07/2015 8:46:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

-——TOURISTS-—

The action killed two birds with one stone

The Russians received a retributive counter attack

The Egyptians received punishment for killing the brotherhood


15 posted on 11/07/2015 8:46:15 AM PST by Thibodeaux (this time really is different)
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To: kindred
The entire Muslim world should be quarantined. Instead, it's being invited to move to Europe.


16 posted on 11/07/2015 8:49:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kindred

I think that ISIS can expect more extreme attacks in reprisal for the downed plane. It might have been more prudent if ISIS had kept their mouths shut.


17 posted on 11/07/2015 8:52:00 AM PST by Parmy
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To: Travis McGee

They must be tickled at their crazy good fortune. How did they manage to tickle “allah” that well? Could it be the ISIS slayings have fed the demons, while Christendom is still attempting to struggle back to its theistic feet?


18 posted on 11/07/2015 8:54:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Parmy

At some point in that nearly lawless area, there could be an anti-ISIS.


19 posted on 11/07/2015 8:54:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: kindred
The Russians are likely contacting family members of the ISIS scum.

Soviets Offer 'How-to' Lesson 1986 and Muslims had kidnapped four Soviets

the KGB castrated a relative of a prominent Muslim leader and sent the severed organs to the Muslim, with advice that they knew of his other relatives.

The Soviets were pretty much left alone after that.

20 posted on 11/07/2015 9:20:02 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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