Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship

Politico ^ | 11/06/2015 | Kyle Cheney

[Angels27]

So much for the Carson surge.

[fatima]

STOP IT :)

[GIdget2004]

“One does not ‘apply’ to West Point. You must apply to a congress critter or distinct other officeholders for an ‘appointment’ . This appointment is made, but NOT guaranteed to be admitted.”

Oh really? It seems the Office of Admissions at West Point feels differently.

http://www.usma.edu/admissions/SitePages/Steps.aspx

[DoodleDawg]

The truly sad fact is that when the dust finally settles on the wreck of the Carson campaign, he will be remembered for this and not for his decades of work as a brilliant and gifted surgeon. Carson has seen to the ruining of his own reputation.

[Yaelle]

And it definitely takes starting the admission process to be offered a scholarship?

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I know 4-5 guys currently at West Point and there is a pretty heavy process to apply. Even if he was begged to apply and told he would get in, he knows he didn’t get a scholarship if he did not go through the application process. There was no need to lie: saying that high military people wanted him to is praise enough!

[FreeReign]

As the top JROTC cadet in Detroit with excellent grades, he was certainly told by multiple people at the dinner that he would be accepted and that it was a full ride. Carson never said that he applied to West Point and was accepted. He knew early on that a military career was not what he wanted. Politico may indeed burn him down with their interpretation of Carson’s story, but I don’t see that Carson is guilty of lying. Carson said he didn’t outright refuse the “scholarship” but that he did let “them” know that a military career was not what he was interested in. Sounds to me like “them” is not West Point but rather the people who offered to nominate him and that “scholarship” is the full ride that would’ve come with being accepted into WP. I give Politico two Pinocchios on this one.

You may be right on this. Looks to me like a POLITICO hack job.

I find it interesting that some people here are quick to believe POLITICO yet their candidate of choice has called POLITICO dishonest.

[sparklite2]

There’s also...

No horse, no wife, and no moustache.

[JimRed]

Where will his white guilt GOP supporters go?

Draft Colonel West?

[stephenjohnbanker]

It’s a big deal in any town.

[ifinnegan]

“So this is just a big train wreck for Carson”

Only because Politico is ginning it up.

This is a nothing story. It is about a surgeon looking back at his time at the transition to College, remembering his choices and how he decided to do what he did.

Politico actually provides the proof of his claims and shows that it was not on Memorial Day but in In February.

Do you have any doubt Carson at that age with his ROTC background was not told he could get a scholarship if he wanted?

He tells the story in the book not to claim he had been awarded a full scholarship (and he never claimed that in the book) but to write about his choices at that age and how he ultimately chose to go and become a brain surgeon.

[Yashcheritsiy]

Good grief - when you “concede that the story was false,” fabrication is rightly implied.

[Bigg Red]

+1

[sparklite2]

LOL

[Rusty0604]

Thank you. I had business opportunities in my life that I talk about but I had to turn down and never applied for because of family responsibilities, but that doesn’t make it not true.

[nclaurel]

Well I am for either Cruz or Trump, but I hope Cruz didn’t mean executive orders other than Obama’s hidden records. I think all Americans should have the opportunity to see the fraud that was elected.

[TontoKowalski]

I hardly think Carson isn’t proud of his real life.

You're right. He should be very proud of all he's accomplished.

And that's what makes this so puzzling. Why lie about this? It is pointless; I'm reminded of Hillary lying about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Why?

Ben Carson has never been my first choice, but I admire him.

However, this coupled with the pyramid nonsense... I think he's done. Republicans are like Democrats. We don't get over blatant lies.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“You may be right on this. Looks to me like a POLITICO hack job. “

Respectfully, there was nothing “hack” about it. This may be the most well thought out, finely structured Hit Piece I have ever read : )

[Godebert]

"On a side note... why are so many of the posts infected with special character symbols? It makes everything hard to read."

I thought I was the only one seeing that. What's up with that?

[FreeReign]

So you admitted your own post is bull sh*t. Lies and political bull sh*t should be spammed right our of here.

I don lie. And now you lie.

[INVAR]

Carson’s fatal mistake is admitting the allegation made by Politico is true.

Even if it is a hit job, which I agree it was.

We live in a society, because iniquity abounds, where one cannot admit wrong without suffering permanent consequences for it.

Unless you are a Leftist - which never happens, because they never admit wrongdoing - and if they are presented with enough evidence of their involvement in evil, and they admit it - the media will preach the virtues of forgive and forget.

This is war folks. All is fair.