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U.S. unemployment drops to 5%
wnd.com ^ | 11/6/2015 | Angelo Young

Posted on 11/06/2015 7:23:41 AM PST by rktman

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To: rktman

Chicken in every pot - heck no. Top sirloin in every pot (sarc)


41 posted on 11/06/2015 7:47:34 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: plain talk

Nu uh! LOL! In any case, regular in Reno is around $2.57/gal. Compared to last year, it’s relatively “cheap”.


42 posted on 11/06/2015 7:51:36 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The Obama admin does not use the BLS statistical base as originally designed. It does not count anyone who is no longer receiving UC benefits.


43 posted on 11/06/2015 7:53:06 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: LostInBayport
These numbers are about as genuine as Hillary's smiles.

Or her black cotton-pickin' plantation accent.

44 posted on 11/06/2015 7:56:16 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
It does not count anyone who is no longer receiving UC benefits.

Bullcrap then, bullcrap now. Would you like to be educated?

45 posted on 11/06/2015 7:57:55 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rktman
How the government measures unemployment - AKA A Cure for Insomnia:

How the government measures unemployment

46 posted on 11/06/2015 7:59:53 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: rktman; All

The two biggest LIES in recent history

1) Man-made global warming

2) The national unemployment rate


47 posted on 11/06/2015 8:02:47 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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I might as well post this now, in case I need to come back to it:

Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.

The number of unemployed persons in the United States and the national unemployment rate are produced from data collected in the Current Population Survey (CPS), a monthly survey of over 60,000 households. A person's unemployment status is established by responses to a series of questions on whether they have a job or are on layoff, whether they want a job and are available to work, and what they have done to look for work in the preceding 4 weeks. The unemployment rate is the number of unemployed persons as a percent of the labor force (employed and unemployed persons). See "Who is counted as unemployed?" for more information.

Statistics on persons receiving unemployment insurance benefits (sometimes called insured unemployment) in the United States are collected as a byproduct of unemployment insurance programs. Workers who lose their jobs and are covered by these programs typically file claims which serve as notice that they are beginning a period of unemployment. Claimants who qualify for benefits are counted in the insured unemployment figures. More information about the Unemployment Insurance program is available from the Department of Labor's Employment and Training Administration, including weekly data on UI claims.

While not related to the national unemployment rate, UI claims data do serve as inputs into the calculation of state and local area unemployment estimates. See the Local Area Unemployment Statistics program for more information.


48 posted on 11/06/2015 8:05:55 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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John Crudele

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Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report

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In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.

The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated.

And the Census Bureau, which does the unemployment survey, knew it.

Just two years before the presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report, which is one of the most closely watched measures of the economy.

And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond that one employee — that it escalated at the time President Obama was seeking reelection in 2012 and continues today.

“He’s not the only one,” said the source, who asked to remain anonymous for now but is willing to talk with the Labor Department and Congress if asked.

The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.

Ironically, it was Labor’s demanding standards that left the door open to manipulation.

Labor requires Census to achieve a 90 percent success rate on its interviews — meaning it needed to reach 9 out of 10 households targeted and report back on their jobs status.

Census currently has six regions from which surveys are conducted. The New York and Philadelphia regions, I’m told, had been coming up short of the 90 percent.

Philadelphia filled the gap with fake interviews.

“It was a phone conversation — I forget the exact words — but it was, ‘Go ahead and fabricate it’ to make it what it was,” Buckmon told me.

Census, under contract from the Labor Department, conducts the household survey used to tabulate the unemployment rate.

Interviews with some 60,000 household go into each month’s jobless number, which currently stands at 7.3 percent. Since this is considered a scientific poll, each one of the households interviewed represents 5,000 homes in the US.

Buckmon, it turns out, was a very ambitious employee. He conducted three times as many household interviews as his peers, my source said.

By making up survey results — and, essentially, creating people out of thin air and giving them jobs — Buckmon’s actions could have lowered the jobless rate.

Buckmon said he filled out surveys for people he couldn’t reach by phone or who didn’t answer their doors.

But, Buckmon says, he was never told how to answer the questions about whether these nonexistent people were employed or not, looking for work, or have given up.

But people who know how the survey works say that simply by creating people and filling out surveys in their name would boost the number of folks reported as employed.

Census never publicly disclosed the falsification. Nor did it inform Labor that its data was tainted.

“Yes, absolutely they should have told us,” said a Labor spokesman. “It would be normal procedure to notify us if there is a problem with data collection.”

Census appears to have looked into only a handful of instances of falsification by Buckmon, although more than a dozen instances were reported, according to internal documents.

In one document from the probe, Program Coordinator Joal Crosby was ask in 2010, “Why was the suspected … possible data falsification on all (underscored) other survey work for which data falsification was suspected not investigated by the region?”

On one document seen by The Post, Crosby hand-wrote the answer: “Unable to determine why an investigation was not done for CPS,” or the Current Population Survey — the official name for the unemployment report.

With regard to the Consumer Expenditure survey, only four instances of falsification were looked into, while 14 were reported.

I’ve been suspicious of the Census Bureau for a long time.

During the 2010 Census report — an enormous and costly survey of the entire country that goes on for a full year — I suspected (and wrote in a number of columns) that Census was inexplicably hiring and firing temporary workers.

I suspected that this turnover of employees was being done purposely to boost the number of new jobs being report each month. (The Labor Department does not use the Census Bureau for its other monthly survey of new jobs — commonly referred to as the Establishment Survey.)

Last week I offered to give all the information I have, including names, dates and charges to Labor’s inspector general.

I’m waiting to hear back from Labor.

I hope the next stop will be Congress, since manipulation of data like this not only gives voters the wrong impression of the economy but also leads lawmakers, the Federal Reserve and companies to make uninformed decisions.

To cite just one instance, the Fed is targeting the curtailment of its so-called quantitative easing money-printing/bond-buying fiasco to the unemployment rate for which Census provided the false information.

So falsifying this would, in essence, have dire consequences for the country.


49 posted on 11/06/2015 8:06:11 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: rktman

The good news is that even using Bureau of Labor Statistics data, more often than not, states with Republican administrations and Republican control of the legslature are at full employment. Each state also keeps its own unemploymnt data in case anyone doesn’t want to rely on Labor Department statistics.
For example, in September:
1) North Dakota: 2.8% unemployment
2) Nebraska: 2.9%
3) New Hampshire 3.4%
3) Hawaii: 3.4% (Democrat state)
5) South Dakota: 3.5%
6) Iowa: 3.6%
6) Utah: 3.6%
8) Vermont: 3.7%
9) Minnesota: 3.8%
10) Colorado: 4.0%
10) Wyoming: 4.0%


50 posted on 11/06/2015 8:06:42 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Louis Foxwell

So, in sum, whether or not you are collecting unemployment compensation, or whether it has run out—has nothing to do with the way the unemployment rate is calculated.


51 posted on 11/06/2015 8:09:00 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

The UC is, however, the number used by the WH to show the rate of unemployment.


52 posted on 11/06/2015 8:13:11 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: 1rudeboy

The WH has taken over the functions of the BLS.


53 posted on 11/06/2015 8:14:26 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: rktman

Bullcarp. Eot


54 posted on 11/06/2015 8:14:42 AM PST by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You left out the slowing growth of the Antarctic ice. Remember that using liblogic if the gain is less than a previous gain it’s a net loss. Or something.


55 posted on 11/06/2015 8:16:45 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

I heard the Moon is made of Cheese ,all kinds of delicious cheese


56 posted on 11/06/2015 8:17:40 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: rktman

yeah I get a chuckle when every once in a while someone will make some remark about high costs of gasoline. Depending on where one lives a gallon of gasoline can be cheaper than a gallon of milk which is stunning when you consider what it takes to produce a gallon of gasoline


57 posted on 11/06/2015 8:27:30 AM PST by plain talk (anks.)
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To: plain talk

LOL! Or a gallon of bottled tap water. Well, maybe Evian.


58 posted on 11/06/2015 8:32:47 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

My my my....someone here mislabeled the Friday Silliness Thread.


59 posted on 11/06/2015 8:38:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rktman

Exactly


60 posted on 11/06/2015 8:39:59 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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