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To: odawg

Yeah... the fundamental problem is that we think it’s our show, that the good Lord is just some byword, some metaphor for... what? Our better instincts? But what would tell us which instincts are better, if there were no judge but ourselves to try to sort it out?

And you might be up against a brick wall when you expect Norm to believe in any kind of living God like you and I do. Though it’s good to keep reminding the Awesome one that there is such a being, who is even more Awesome.

We may have done stupid things to the point of needing to be chastened. That doesn’t mean God has shut the door to better possibilities in the future. But next time, educated by the chastening, we might be more alert to travel through that door when it counts. If we looked at our past, we would not see some museum of plaster saints that got shoved away by some enemy that we were too pure to consort with, without our active participation. We’d see door after door that we shunned while God was saying, go here! go here! So now we have only the crappy doors left and God says don’t just sit there, choose something, but go.


36 posted on 11/06/2015 10:03:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It is certainly the Good Lord's show. However, He created us and gave us free will and most of us believe that He expects us individually to exercise that free will in a morally responsible manner. I'll let Norm speak for himself but I certainly believe in the same living God that you believe in.

To the question: Why did God make me? the old Catholic Baltimore Catechism replied: He made me to know Him, to love Him and to serve Him in this world and be happy forever with Him in the next. I believe that you are not Catholic and I will not venture a guess as to your specific denomination as a Christian but I have seen many of your posts here and I would be flabbergasted if you believe that God wants us to do evil rather than merely allowing us to choose evil.

I am not going to lay off the sorry condition of the USA and its "leaders" of BOTH parties on the God Whom I worship. He gave us our lives, and this wonderful world in which we live and all of our resources. He did not create evil but left us free to choose it at our own peril. He grants graces as He sees fit and perhaps He has decided that chastisement is in order as you suggest. I believe that Pope Francis is a chastisement to good Catholics who have become neglectful of their obligations to God and that our nation is being similarly chastised. God will indeed provide us with better doors in the future but is up to us to create a political system in which such doors may be effective

Just as I will not try to claim that I understand your specific spiritual commitments, I certainly will not presume to imagine that I can speak for God. I just do the best I can with the resources available to know Him, love Him and serve Him in this world in the hope that I might be happy forever with Him in the next and I will come to that resolution of my life sooner than I might expect.

Though I am disagreeing with you apparently on the matter of Romney, may God bless you and yours!

48 posted on 11/06/2015 9:00:54 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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