Posted on 11/05/2015 10:19:10 PM PST by Perseverando
You want nonsense? They this
“What makes you think I vote for people I don’t like?
...”
“I voted for Romney.”
Now by your own words you either dislike Romney and voted for him, which makes your post look idiotic, or you like Romney and voted for him. Which proves what I have said all along. You want what he offers.
Which is the nonsense?
Is it nonsense that you contradicted yourself or is it nonsense that you like Romney? One of them is. So please spare me lectures about “MY” so called and patheticly avoided “nonsense”. You made the claim.
“You want what he offers.”
I just knew you would come up with that angle.
What he offered was a chance, a possibility, to rid the country of Obama. How is that so bad?
It is like a person in dire need of medical assistance because he is bleeding out. The only person he has available is a medic, who, though not a doctor, knows enough to save his life. Should the person refuse the medic’s assistance because he is not a doctor. That is the way I looked at Romney. I think Romney would have stopped the bleeding. And, most importantly of all, Romney is an American.
i note you deftly didn’t answer. But we all can see that so I’ll let your non addressing of your own words stand.
“What he offered was a chance, a possibility, to rid the country of Obama. How is that so bad?”
And replace him with an ideological mirror that not only was famous for lying, but immeadiately, within literally 18 hours, retracted a chunk of his promises on the trail and within days has 100% reverted to his leftist positions. Who then went on retreat tours attacking any conservative he could find and gathering forces to deny them the 14 and 16 elections.
That is the man, and history proves it is factual, you wanted to replace Obama with. Barry “White”.
Thats suicidal.
Now answer the question. Did you lie that you do not vote for people that you do not like or do you? You admitted the Romney vote. Do you like him or did you lie outright in your assertion?
Cannot have it both ways. Pick one and stand by it. I didn’t make you say anything or twist anything. You typed the words freely.
Agreed. The Constitution is the LAW in this country, no matter how tattered it is. TREASON is the only name for anyone deliberately giving away our sovereignty. This is 1communist one world rule. WAKE UP AMERICA!
He called himself a "pro-lifer" in 2012? You believed him? He also called himself a "severe conservative." You probably believed that too. You can always tell when Willard lies. His lips move.
I am in the camp of I won't for Jebbie in primaries but I would probably quite reluctantly consider voting for him in the general. I despise his mama Barbara and his daddy GHWB and GHWB's New World Order nonsense. Jebbie is pretty reliable on the issue of the babies and he has never pretended otherwise. Perfect? Hell no! But barely acceptable against the Arkansas Medusa. Romney? NEVER!
Your "pledged pro-life Romney" organized a business for profit to help the abortion mills avoid the embarrassment of real pro-lifers photographing the murdered little corpses in their dumpsters and distributing the graphic evidence of their grisly work. There is your "pledged pro-lifer." He literally bought support from some actually pro-life organizations starved for $$$$$ by giving them substantial contributions.
Willard is such a "severe conservative" that he did not vote for Ronaldus Maximus when Ronaldus Maximus was winning landslide support in Taxachusetts. That means that Willard was to the LEFT of even the Taxachusetts electorate. Reagan in 1984 also carried Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, Maine, NEW YORK (and came closer to carrying NYC than any candidate since Coolidge in 1924), California, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and every state not named Minnesota which he gave to Mondale by 1/2 of 1% as a mercy by canceling the last weekend planned tour of Minnesots. Every leftist state and every state other than Minnesota voted FOR Ronaldus Maximus BUT NOT the "severely conservative" Romney, at least according to Romney in that Senate race against Ted the Swimmer.
Listen, I have no earthly idea as to whom you voted FOR in POTUS elections other than in 1980, 1984 AND 2012, as to which, I am taking YOUR WORD that you voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984 but also FOR the monster Romney in 2012. I won't presume to claim I know whom you voted for in other elections.
When you voted for Romney, you did not vote for a "liberal Republican." If you had voted for a mere liberal Republican, you might have voted for a Mark Nancyboy Kirk or a Susan Collins or a Lisa Murkowski or Mitch McConnell or a Thad Cockroach, etc., etc., etc. When you voted FOR Romney, you voted for a leftist pro-abortion, gun grabbing, "gay""marriage" requiring, rampaging social issue revolutionary who cares less about military, about veterans, about crime in the streets, about social stability of suburban neighborhoods, about jobs for Americans of modest means (other than to send those jobs abroad to fatten corporate profits and Muffie's trust fund), about the continued viability of Social Security and Medicare, etc., etc., etc.
It is an insult to actual liberal Republicans whom most of us despise to call a monster like Romney a mere "liberal Republican." You did not call him that since you voted for him and say that you don't vote for "liberal Republicans." Does that mean that you drank the Kool Aid and believed him when he said he was a "severe conservative?"
In WWII, Hitler offered to Russians and Ukrainians and others a chance, a possibility, of getting rid of Stalin.. In WWII, Stalin gave the German people and the Austrians and those in the Sudetenland and in Vichy France "a chance, a possibility" to rid Europe of Hitler and Nazism. There were Kool Aid guzzlers on both sides. A third way was needed. We should have let the Russkies and the Germans annihilate one another and then went in and picked up the pieces other than perhaps bombing the rail lines taking their victims to their respective death camps whether Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, or the Gulag Archipelago in Siberia. So it was in the match between Obozo and Willard. In that choice the USA and its people COULD NOT WIN.
Read the late James Burnham's great study Suicide of the West.
Just as predicted among several here, these guys are once again coming out of the woodwork to, again, just as predicted, puss the same tired lesser evil crap and their champion, who did more than his share to get us the mess we have.
Is there really a question anymore as to where the problem of Conservatism lies in 2015? 3 entire years have passes. All the things we learned from no less than the leftist himself, and he has all these little helpers still here helping do MORE damage.
We are STILL a year out and ONCE AGAIN the groundwork is being laid to go with option B. Always Plan B. No matter what.
Very few feel the slightest need to stand on principle anymore. There’s always a Mitt Romney type in the wings to fall back on. Primary near? Well it’s close so we’ll just go with the establishment guy because we gotta WIN!!! With the Establishment! This election is too important! Most important EVER!!!
But just wait till next time....yes...next time. Just like last time.
Next time we will shy the world!...but not this time. This time is tooooooo important. We gotta play 3D chess. Keep our powder dry.
But next time....yessssss....(rubs hands together and prays God will help elect a baby killer)
Soon...
To the question: Why did God make me? the old Catholic Baltimore Catechism replied: He made me to know Him, to love Him and to serve Him in this world and be happy forever with Him in the next. I believe that you are not Catholic and I will not venture a guess as to your specific denomination as a Christian but I have seen many of your posts here and I would be flabbergasted if you believe that God wants us to do evil rather than merely allowing us to choose evil.
I am not going to lay off the sorry condition of the USA and its "leaders" of BOTH parties on the God Whom I worship. He gave us our lives, and this wonderful world in which we live and all of our resources. He did not create evil but left us free to choose it at our own peril. He grants graces as He sees fit and perhaps He has decided that chastisement is in order as you suggest. I believe that Pope Francis is a chastisement to good Catholics who have become neglectful of their obligations to God and that our nation is being similarly chastised. God will indeed provide us with better doors in the future but is up to us to create a political system in which such doors may be effective
Just as I will not try to claim that I understand your specific spiritual commitments, I certainly will not presume to imagine that I can speak for God. I just do the best I can with the resources available to know Him, love Him and serve Him in this world in the hope that I might be happy forever with Him in the next and I will come to that resolution of my life sooner than I might expect.
Though I am disagreeing with you apparently on the matter of Romney, may God bless you and yours!
Morality isn’t too much. Morality is too little. We can make morality a primary object of free will (which seems to be the official catechized Catholic model), or we can let it be a fruit of God’s love chosen and clung to and followed and passed along, wherever that love chooses to go (which a lot of devoted believers of all denominations actually do).
Congratulations! If "We The People" don't do what we need to do, we will never get the solid constitutional leaders we claim to want.
Say wuh?
Is that the "principled conservative view? Sounds like someone trying to justify not getting invested in what they preach.
In your world, what status does a good candidate's funding have to deteriorate to before one should bump up the coffers and how does the funding of the real evil in the game play into that equation (Hillary is estimated as going to have about $2 billion at her disposal).
Also, how long should one engage in vocal support before one is ready to spread his wings/open his checkbook to try to insure we get a conservative candidate in the final equation? Since some are always harping about not compromising by voting the lesser evil, one would assume that the same folks spouting off would be avid supporters of the most conservative choice(s) and be willing to spend whatever it took to try to boost said candidates.
On planet Mormie, support is about a lot more than just raw cash. You seem to have the belief of the major political parties where anything can be solves with sufficient funding, votes bought and the standard ‘throw money at it’ philosophy of government. Yet you are troubled by a system that tries solving anything by throwing money at it from taxpayers in endless quantities.
Sure money is needed. And Cruz is having no issues materializing it at will. Millions at a time. I see no desperation pleas from him or his campaign.
People have the mindset that ‘well I sent $20 so I did my part” and then come here and let leftists run wild trashing him left right and sideways while siting silently and letting the left here steer the debate. They do the same thing in real life at the church social, the VFW abd the Walmart checkout line. They don’t campaign, try convincing their friends and co-workers, none of the non cash things that are what win elections on the ground.
Thats how it works in my world. There’s more to ‘support’ than just check writing.
Your home page says that you are a Mississippian. Did you vote for Thad Cockroach or Chris McDaniel in the Mississippi primary? Did you vote for Cockroach in the general as instructed by Haley Barbour? Why?/Why not?
Romney? Obozo? or a candidate reflecting Western Civilization and its traditional values? What would a truly fine man like John Stennis have done?
In politics, $$$$$ is only good for obtaining votes. A candidate who offers voters NOTHING worth voting FOR will not win no matter how much money he/she lavishes on media outlets for paid propaganda. Romney had nothing worth voting FOR (unless the voter was a leftist airhead which constituency was cornered easily by Obozo). Therefore Romney lost and his financial suckers lost and his voters lost. America lost on the day Romney was nominated. That was NEVER in doubt.
If you've got another poisonous excuse for a candidate up your sleeve, pour YOUR money into him to your heart's content all the way to bankruptcy court if you like, but if you had $2 trillion to give Romney, he STILL would not win.
Man up and move on.
God bless!
LOL!
I voted for McDaniel and went so far as to put up a sign in my yard that stated that a vote for Cochran was a vote for betrayal and submission to those who would rule us.
I have to admit the screed is rather nice - but tell me - do you also cop out of sending money to a conservative because "money isn't everything" and then complain when your guy can't weather the storms that get thrown by others (on both sides of the aisle)?
You and Norm seem to be of the same mindset (I'll assume that the others are also allies of Y'All) but neither one of you has mentioned what you actually do other than give lip service here. I've seen Norm slam a bunch of hopefuls but don't recall him actually acting as a booster for any. How about on the ground? do you do anything to make up for lack of ability/desire to send funds?
Norm mentioned he hasn't seen any pleas from Cruz asking for money - those of us on his donor lists are always getting emails and mailers (along with the occasional phone call).
Money may not be everything, but, once again, Hillary is expected to have $2 Billion at her disposal - our guy will need substantial; funding to counter the firestorm of ads and other such attacks.
You all seem to be great at the screeds and the claim of higher principles (which include allowing the absolute most toxic candidate the other side can come up with to win out of them "principles" and then claim it's all for the best - anyone who thinks 8 years of Obama was the best we could do is either a moron or just plain nuts.
So, tell me, other than say "No NO NO NO NO", exactly what do you do to try to focus on getting the best guy we have on the ballot and trying to defeat the Left instead of just rolling over because things aren't at "optimum". I know what I do and, barring Y'All coming out and telling me what you do to take positive action, I will assume that I am the one exhibiting the higher principles and Conservative traits because I seem to be doing a lot more than Y'All. Do you assist in any campaigns ground game? Do you make calls or knock on doors or act as a clearing house for yard signs, etc.? My guess is no - prove me wrong and then you can ask me about my "credentials. I feel like the class dunce is asking the honor student what makes him think he's so smart - and the dunce has ability but never focuses it on anything positive.
Who do you claim to support?
Now for a short public service announcement to all on FR:
I prefer Cruz and my money goes to his campaign, hence the Cruz link. If you like someone else, donate to him/her (find your own link to do it) and if you use FR and don't donate, then please don't complain about the welfare leeches or those who have Obama Phones because, functionally, you are no different than any other FReeloader.....
GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!
One more time. $$$$$ in politics is only good for attracting votes if a campaign has SOMETHING to offer to justify any patriot in voting for its candidate. Romney had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to offer voters like me. I did not volunteer to tell you what I do and have done instead of just contributing $$$$$ to candidates which really does not require much in the way of creativity or a winning attitude or policy chops, just a degree of gullibility that is seldom seen nowadays other from those who want to buy our nation and its government and its laws for their pet projects and massive personal profit and, for them, that is really not gullibility just unvarnished greed.
Though I did not volunteer to tell you, since you have asked, I shall.
I don't give money because I am in no position to give money needed to live very modestly and pay what bills I can pay. I am disabled by heart, kidney and pancreatic failure and live on a small Social Security check. God bless Medicare. The $ I get goes for food, utilities and transport to dialysis and for medications. If I DID have $ to contribute, it would go to Free Republic which, in any given half hour, provides more service to the conservative movement, conservative policy and therefore the USA and its people than the Paul Singers, Sheldon Adelsons, Willard Mitt Romneys, his financiers, Wall Street, K Street and the US Chamber of Crony Socialism will in their entire miserable lives/existences.
Free Republic would get any $ I could contribute because JimRob has seen to it that most conservatives and some others are welcome on FR which is his living room AND JimRob refuses to run advertising which would give rise to undue influence over the site. Any other $ would go to my Tridentine Mass Catholic Church or the grammar/high school (owned by very conservative Catholic parents) where my wife teaches the children effectively to understand genuine old-fashioned Catholicism, conservatism as we have both participated in it throughout our adult lives, actual morality and moral theology without apologies to anyone, Saxon Math, Brit Lit, Am Lit, rigorous English grammar, syntax, pronunciation, spelling, etc., Latin likewise (from Robert Henle's texts), European History (retired Yale Academic Dean Donald Kagan's text), American History (the late Harvard professor Samuel Eliot Morrison's text/he was official historian of the US Navy in WW II as well), foreign languages, actual Music, Choir, discipline, orderly behavior, daily group rosaries and no distractions such as football teams, marching bands or junior year in Europe programs. It is not for the tastes of everyone but those who attend are not cherry-picked and do substantially better than the students at public or parochial schools and most quality private academies.
When institutions like the GOP or the regular parochial schools do not do THEIR jobs, we are quite used to doing their jobs for them. She and that school are seeding the future generations of conservatives in Northern Illinois and, though quite Catholic, the school is open to well-behaved non-Catholic students whose parents want for them a quality education and we regard good and academically rigorous Protestant academies as our allies. I hear we have hope that even a scholarly local hard-line Lutheran pastor will be bringing his knowledge of Greek to our students. All this for substantially lower tuition than the parochial schools and no influence from the NEA or PP or other social revolutionaries and historical revisionists.
What have I done other than $ to advance the cause? I was the first person in my blue collar labor union family to graduate high school (a Jesuit Prep school so long ago that the Jebbies were still Catholic), I then graduated college magna cum laude, with a degree in American History, concentrating on the Civil War (in which, in spite of my Northern roots, I would have favored the CSA for constitutional reasons) care first and foremost about social and moral issues.
I then graduated law school and passed the bar exam on the first try and hung out my own shingle, spending most of the next 30 years as a solo practitioner with a normal practice other than a concentration on pro bono work for just about every conservative social issue cause (representing 1100+ pro-lifers arrested shutting down abortion mills and de-sterilizing everything so that the mills were out of business until the suction machines could be re-built by engineers and a total of only 30 arrestees were convicted of anything and about 10 did jail post-trial and none of them more than ten days and none paid fines or cooperated with probation). I also volunteered my time representing arrested National Rifle Association members on alleged gun violations. None were convicted. I even did some work for the National Right to Work Foundation in civilly attacking a leftist union for outright thuggery. For the conservative cause, I gave at the office.
When the divorce courts became heavily biased in favor of feminist women, I represented men who were their victims whether they could afford it or not. That should suffice on the professional front but I note that I did not make more substantial money as an attorney because I thought my license was a privilege just as doctors who treated me when I was a child and my father was on strike did not worry about payment and provided first class service.
Politically, beginning in college, I took leadership positions on a state level in Connecticut where conservatism was and is somewhat less popular than in Mississippi. I brought literally hundreds of students into conservatism when the "New Left" was rampaging on the campuses and in the media. At various times, I was state chairman of Young Americans for Freedom, Young Republicans, College Republicans, of ACU's state affiliate.
In 1968, I had the privilege of doing substantial volunteer work as a driver of those influentials who were trying to take Nixon delegates into Reagan's camp, including California State GOP State Chairman Jim Halley and a principled Virginia zillionaire named Stets Coleman, among others. I did this at the Miami GOP National Convention for "the California delegation," i.e. for
In 1976, I was Ronald Reagan's state chairman against the despicable wimp and special interest slave Gerald Feckless Ford. That was an uproarious state convention during which the Ford organization REQUIRED the convention chairman to apologize to the Reagan forces from the podium. I am ashamed to say that I voted for Ford in November as I voted for each and every GOP POTUS candidate from 1968 to 2008 after which I have been a recovering Republican and ill ONLY vote for candidates worth voting FOR.
I was a state officer and very active participant in statewide taxpayers' organizations when we forced the repeal of an as yet to be collected state income tax on wages and salaries in 1971 and again in 1991 when an old enemy Lowell Weicker, who had been elected governor got his corrupt fellow malefactors of wealth together and bought and bribed their way to Connecticut's current state income tax which is absolutely ruining that state. The big shots understandably resented their substantial investment tax burdens of up to 14% and Weicker slashed their tax burden by about 2/3 and put the burden on the teenager flipping burgers at Mickey D's and taxed the breadwinners' wages in blue collar homes throughout the state instead. We parked 60,000 people on the State Capitol lawn closing adjacent streets by the volume of the crowd but $$$$$ prevailed and Connecticut was screwed.
At least the same groups that fought the state income tax under former State Senator Tom Scott had deprived Weicker of his US Senate seat in 1988 when Joe Lieberman took him down. Joe, unlike Weicker, is a good and decent human being and, while liberal as required by Connecticut Demonratic bosses, he was NOT a despicable pissant like Weicker. We brought B-1 Bob Dornan in from California for a fundraiser against Weicker. Joe easily got a big majority of fed up GOP votes against Weicker and Weicker got a near majority of Demonratic votes which he had earned. The usual GOP-E suspects supported Weicker. Lieberman ran a TV ad showing film footage of Weicker scuba diving with Fidel Castro in Cuba and yukking it up with him. Lieberman had his wife's parents show their concentration camp wrist tattoos (freed by Patton) and said that no one in their family will EVER be found cavorting with ANY KIND of dictator. He never disappointed on that score.
Romney is an utter social revolutionary barbarian, baby-killer (for profit), "gay" "marriage" enforcer, gun grabber, creator of Romneycare and therefore of Obozocare, enemy of freedom of religion, enemy of folks who work with their hands for a living unless they are artistes or tenders of his polo ponies, etc., etc., etc., and, if he had been elected, then the USA would have had NO near term chance of having an opposition party to the Demonrats. Romney was NEVER going to win. Obozo was a lock for re-election from the very day that Romney was nominated. Those who refused to allow the GOP and conservatism to go the way that the USA was going under Obozo, Pelousy and Reid are not and never cold be responsible for Obozo's victory. That is on Romney and other Weickers of our era and those foolish enough to provide their votes to their slimy candidates like Romney.
I wound up supporting Santorum in the 2012 Illinois primary to no particular avail. I attended his rally in this area and urged others to do so. He was not perfect but a darn sight better than the Romney creature (ANY Romney creature). Hell, Aaron Burr would have been far preferable. Charlie Manson would about equal Obozo or Romney.
In the general, I voted for Tom Hoefling who is FR's own Eternal Vigilance. Anybody who does not like that should remember that we call our right to vote freedom and democracy (of a sort) and if that's not good enough, they can kiss the east end of me heading west.
I was the Republican nominee for Congress in a verrry Demonrat and very leftist district and ran on the pro-life issue and did better than other non-incumbents in my state on minimal funds and gave the incumbent senior Demonrat fits until he retired after two more terms to cash in as a DC K Street lobbyist and after two painful elections arranged by me for another opponent of his. I was GOP Town Chairman of a town of 50,000 people and an active delegate to several state conventions. I was also heavily involved in two later elections for that House seat on behalf of the best of our candidates.
For 2016, I originally supported Scott Walker having witnessed (via Wisconsin AM Radio 620 Charlie Sykes and Jeff Wagner) his career advance from State Representative to Milwaukee (!!!!) County Executive to Governor and I have never seen a more effective conservative in office at any level. He does not just defeat liberals. He absolutely CRUSHES them in a traditionally leftist state. We will regret our failure to nominate him as he will regret the admittedly poor quality of his POTUS campaign. My candidate now is Ted Cruz who is not perfect (Pacific Trade Agreement, inter alia) but certainly perfect enough and quite trustworthy ideologically. The babies can depend on Ted. So can conventionally married people and believers in God. So can gun owners and those who will wish to begun owners. So can our military. So can veterans. More than any still running, he can be trusted to appoint federal judges of the right sort and only the right sort. He will aggressively fight for the things we believe in and I hope he is convinced to change on trade issues.
Obozo = Romney = Hillary = Romney = Obozo. Rinse and repeat. And conservative PRINCIPLE is a rich tapestry that does not include voting for any old POS with a GOP label.
When we begin to react to obscene levels of bribery disguised as "$million campaign contributions," as we do to evidence of child molesting, we will begin to take our country back ad not before.
I think I have answered your questions. Now, your resume and did you vote for Cockroach in the general, and what do you suppose John Stennis would have done? And why, as to the last two questions?
He was good for a couple weeks. I don’t know if he got talked to or just found another target. But he’s at it again yea.
Nothing new. He does what he wants. If anyone cared, they’d put a stop to it. So his behavior must be fine.
What, again with this?
I’m beginning to think it’s some kind of tic.
I know. Just an FYI. How apt— a tic. Which brings to mind, a “tick”. :/
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