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NTSB: El Faro Wreck Missing Bridge and Voyage Data Recorder
gcaptain ^ | November 3, 2015 | Mike Schuler

Posted on 11/05/2015 6:36:36 PM PST by rockinqsranch

A major disappointment announced today in the investigation into the El Faro sinking with the NTSB now saying that the wreck of the ship was discovered with the navigation bridge missing and no sign of the Voyage Data Recorder (VDR).

(Excerpt) Read more at gcaptain.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bridge; elfaro; navigationbridge; ntsb; ship; sinking; tragedy; vdr; voyagedatarecorder
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1 posted on 11/05/2015 6:36:36 PM PST by rockinqsranch
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To: rockinqsranch
El Faro meaning LIGHTHOUSE in Spanish.
There was a major error there. May God take them into His arms and hold them close.
2 posted on 11/05/2015 6:41:23 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: rockinqsranch

The ship must have broke-up pretty bad.


3 posted on 11/05/2015 6:41:27 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rockinqsranch

I keep waiting for an explanation why a modern ship with all the nav gear available was anywhere near a hurricane.


4 posted on 11/05/2015 7:09:38 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: smokingfrog
It fell 3 miles, bound to be a dent or two.
This one only fell some 12,600 feet and it is really smashed.

Blnk
5 posted on 11/05/2015 7:15:00 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: rockinqsranch

Five graduates of the Maine Maritime Academy were on that ship. Two of them were in one of my classes. One just graduated in May and this was his first job-he was on the
ship for three days before it sank. One of my current students was his girl friend and high school sweetheart.


6 posted on 11/05/2015 7:26:29 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: doorgunner69

I suppose you, and I will have a long wait. I’m going to keep following the news on this for some time to come.

My question is why was a forty year old ship being refit over multiple voyages to take routes on the West Coast as her replacement vessels came on line? Seems to me as it’s common practice to scrap these types of vessels at age 25-30 years this vessel at forty years of age was quite an extraordinary circumstance.

Most vessels or this type are scrapped after 25-30 years. Their costs to operate per voyage increase due maintenance factors, as well the wear, and tear on their structures lessens their resistance to the elements they are intended to operate in.

El Faro was scheduled to take a new route on the West Coast from Washington to Alaska. For what duration they intended to keep her in that route is unknown by me, but at her age it’s a curiosity she wasn’t destined for the scrap heap.


7 posted on 11/05/2015 7:27:07 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Maine Mariner

Very sad. Actually heartbreaking...the whole event.


8 posted on 11/05/2015 7:28:46 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: rockinqsranch

According to articles El Faro was designed to operate in Alaskan waters. So a very tough and strengthened hull.

Ends up being cheaper to refit a ship like that over the course of a longer life than build a comparable replacement.


9 posted on 11/05/2015 7:30:46 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Maine Mariner

So sorry. Prayers up for everyone.


10 posted on 11/05/2015 7:31:27 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: tanknetter

Thanks for that. It was a curiosity. I’d not read the vessel was specifically designed for the Alaskan service. Makes more sense, but still has my head spinning.


11 posted on 11/05/2015 7:33:49 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: doorgunner69

I keep waiting for an explanation why a modern ship with all the nav gear available was anywhere near a hurricane.

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It was exactly where the captain intentionally steered it.

My theory all along was that he was under pressure from management to save time and money.


12 posted on 11/05/2015 7:36:09 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Maine Mariner

So sorry to hear how close the tragedy is to you. My condolences to you, your students, and colleagues.


13 posted on 11/05/2015 7:36:15 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Grams A

We are going along fine now, but there was a great outpouring of prayers and community a few weeks ago.
A vigil was held one evening and about 300 people came, including 100 people from the village. Without any prompts, a few people started singing the Navy Hymn. Soon all 300 people joined in. When they finished there was not a dry eye
in the crowd.


14 posted on 11/05/2015 7:36:31 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thank you very much. There are many on FR who have expressed condolences over the past month or so.


15 posted on 11/05/2015 7:38:23 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: minnesota_bound

CGI of how Titanic sank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSGeskFzE0s


16 posted on 11/05/2015 7:40:17 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Maine Mariner

Sorry for the loss of your friends.

The El Faro was moored in Baltimore where I saw it often. I keep looking for it when I pass the port.


17 posted on 11/05/2015 7:43:39 PM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: cyclotic

Thank you for your thoughtful comments.


18 posted on 11/05/2015 7:48:09 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Moonman62

I rotated with another master on a container ship. I would come back to the ship to relieve him and find bent masts and rails, damaged containers and who knows how much internal container cargo damage. One voyage we found the main center line deck beam cracked and opening & closing with each wave.


19 posted on 11/05/2015 7:59:33 PM PST by Cold Heart
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20 posted on 11/05/2015 8:20:44 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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