Russian plane crash: U.S. intel suggests ISIS bomb brought down jet

CNN ^ | November 4, 2015 | Barbara Starr, Catherine E. Shoichet and Ashley Fantz

[Navy Patriot]

Days after authorities dismissed claims that ISIS brought down a Russian passenger jet, a U.S. intelligence analysis now suggests that the terror group or its affiliates planted a bomb on the plane.

And the office of British Prime Minister David Cameron says the plane "may well have been brought down by an explosive device."

Metrojet Flight 9268 crashed Saturday in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula after breaking apart in midair, killing all 224 people on board. It was en route to St. Petersburg from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.

[Navy Patriot]

...so terrorists are killing innocent Russians.

Yes, but which terrorists?

[libstripper]

Duh, what don you know, Obola’s boys done went and dood it. Vlad will not be pleased.

[Thibodeaux]

you overestimate Obama’s capabilities

he may have given the Brotherhood his blessing but they did not need him for this action

[Navy Patriot]

Tell that theory to Seal Team Six.

[SE Mom]

Exactly.

I read there was an unusual sounding commotion heard on the plane in the moments before the explosion ( black boxes)...which got me wondering if a device of some kind was smuggled aboard (luggage?) or with a TERRORIST and as he got ready to set it off a struggle took place...or a similar scenario

More than one possibility, obviously.

[fivecatsandadog]

Maybe the ones taking orders from Hussein and using weapons supplied by Frau Clinton.

[silverleaf]

Somebody knows what happened

Meetings going on in Europe

stand by

[Safetgiver]

Ho-Hum. They’ll never tell you the truth.

[silverleaf]

Up to 15,000 Brits are now stranded at Sharm as all departing flights are on hold and all have been told to stand by to leave, hotels are on high security.

Inbound flights to Sharm all cancelled

Sum Ting Wong

[silverleaf]

COBRA meetings probably above my level of classification :-)

President of Egypt is in London tonight, previously planned trip, convenient for ongoing security discussion

[minnesota_bound]

Over 1,000 Somali’s working at the Mpls/St Paul airport in Minnesota. You just know that when caught with a bomb or other weapons that the democrats will still support having them load baggage or access to the interior of the plane.

[azishot]

Jug-ears will just tell us not to jump to any conclusions.

[SE Mom]

Seems I read a report the Brits have credible threats for Egypt right now, so the whole area will be on alert...not a good time to be stuck there.

[Navy Patriot]

I believe you’re getting warm, let’s ask Chris Stevens.

[ought-six]

Hey, Vlad! ISIS is an Obama wet dream, and he is its biggest enabler. Don’t blame the American people for Obie’s actions (well, you can blame those Americans who put the SOB in officer; but the rest of us, we opposed him).

[ought-six]

Hey, Vlad! ISIS is an Obama wet dream, and he is its biggest enabler. Don’t blame the American people for Obie’s actions (well, you can blame those Americans who put the SOB in office; but the rest of us, we opposed him).

[Navy Patriot]

Don't blame the American people for Obie's actions (well, you can blame those Americans who put the SOB in office; but the rest of us, we opposed him).

Near as I can tell, about 80% of Russians are really pissed at America, and they don't distinguish the difference between the US Government and American people.

[Rockpile]

Well, as we discussed right after this happened a bomb aboard looked very likely. Besides the rear cargo hold the rear latrine is a possible location.
The Italian DC9 off Sicily and the Us flight over Iowa in 1962 had the bombs hidden in the latrines.

Since we don’t have access to the investigation info it is speculative as always.

[Getsmart64]

Over 1,000 Somali's working at the Mpls/St Paul airport in Minnesota

Buttload of them working at Sky Harbor in Phoenix too....

[TXnMA]

As I pointed out on earlier threads, the damage that separated the entire tail section from the aircraft does not appear to be inconsistent with detonation of an explosive device in or about the aft, portside lavatory.

Now, it has been published that the tail section landed some three miles from the bulk of the a/c debris.

The debris field is bimodal and the tail section apparently is in the debris cluster that is closest to the point of takeoff.

(The tail section is apparently in the debris cluster at lower tight.)

Initial loss of the tail or command of the aft horizontal control surfaces is consistent with the very rapid and violent vertical velocity excursions in the last 16 seconds of recorded transponder data:

It has been suggested that an altitude-triggered detonator with an onboard explosive device could have been involved. The (green) altitude plot from transponder data in the last minute is not inconsistent with that scenario:

The time that the a/c reached its maximum altitude (green plot) coincides with the instant that the groundspeed (red plot) began a precipitous 16-second deceleration from 408 knots to 62 knots. Such a rapid decelertion is typical of an air frame that has "departed flight conditions" to become a flopping, tumbling disintegrating mass of falling debris...

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There is still a possibility that residual damage from an earlier tailstrike may have been the initiating factor. But the evidence that is in the public domain is not inconstent with a bomb in the aft john...

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Others are on their own in assigning blame; I don't play that game...