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Donald Trump Tweets a Picture of Jeb Bush Next to a Swastika
NBC News ^ | Nov 4 2015, 7:05 am ET | Cassandra Vinograd

Posted on 11/04/2015 5:02:46 AM PST by WhiskeyX

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To: magellan

“The Guardian article is an indictment of Fritz Thyssen, and the only evidence against Prescott Bush it offers is Bush’s ownership of stock and position on the board of one of the Thyssen family owned banks.”

That is a highly misrepresentative characterization of Prescott Bush’s position and relationship with Germany’s NAZIs, just as much of the anti-Bush rhetoric is a wild defamation of him. The truth lies well in between these polar opposite caricatures. Prescott Bush was in a highly responsible and knowledgeable position answerable to the Dutch and German owners. Any attempt to deny Prescott Bush had knowledge of the NAZI connections to the banking activities is doomed to abject failure, because the evidence is too voluminous to be denied. On the other hand, the Liberal efforts to infer Prescott Bush was a NAZI sympathizer or just a knowing enabler of the NAZI crimes is likewise doomed to abject failure. The evidence for such doomed to abject failure, because the evidence for such actions by Prescott Bush simply is not there.

Prescott Bush’s son served as the top U.S. intelligence officer in the CIA. It may or may not be inferred Prescott Bush likewise provided clandestine intelligence services for the United States in the years going into the Second World War and did so through his position in the banking business related to the Thyssen family. Whether or not such was actually the case may never be known, so the critics of the Bush family may or may not have some limited cause to be critical of the Bush family.

“Guess what? If you owned stock in IBM in the late 1930s and early 1940s you owned stock in a Nazi collaborator.”

Yes, and every American who purchased a Ford vehicle supported an ardent American admirer of Hitler and Hitler’s NAZIism. However, Prescott Bush’s position was nowhere as innocent as a simple stockholder, customer, or low level American employee of their banks. Prescott Bush was a managing director of the banks, knew the owners personally, and had cause to be acquainted with the reputations of the NAZI influence in the banks and their economic activities serving the Third Reich. Whether or not Prescott Bush’s knowledge and activities amount to a culpable collaboration is an open question until and unless further evidence pro and/or con emerges in the future.


81 posted on 11/04/2015 12:16:23 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: magellan

Documents: Bush’s Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/10/17/documents-bush-grandfather-directed-bank-tied-to-man-who-funded-hitler.html


82 posted on 11/04/2015 12:24:01 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: magellan

>> So this whole thing is about Prescott Bush being on the board of a U.S. subsidiary of a Dutch bank owned by a German businessman who originally supported Hitler but then changed and was put into a concentration camp as a result <<

Doesn’t matter. The Donald can do no wrong. Therefore, he was perfectly justified in re-tweeting the picture at issue.


83 posted on 11/04/2015 1:31:31 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn
>> Trump's past and present positions on issues are relevant <<

Are we to understand that you actually would hold the Dear Leader responsible for something he said or did a few months ago or even a few years ago? Wow! How quaint and charmingly old-fashioned!

Facts are facts whether or not they are inconvenient to the narrative - requiring the truth to be shamelessly excused, revised, papered over, misrepresented or ignored.

Many of Trump's past and present (so certainly future) positions are full throated liberal positions.

84 posted on 11/05/2015 1:27:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
>> Facts are facts whether or not they are inconvenient to the narrative <<

Obviously you just don't get it. A "fact" is anything that makes The Dear Leader look good. Conversely, any information that reflects poorly on The Donald is definitionally untrue -- a non-fact, as it were.

In other words, "truth" and "falsity" are not objective constructs. Rather, the "narrative" is what counts. And the correct narrative is that the Dear Leader can do no wrong. Welcome to the world of postmodernism, critical theory and Jacques Derrida!

85 posted on 11/05/2015 6:59:37 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: mountn man
Personally, I'm getting tired of the sophomoric s#!t.

Actually, I'm tired of all the PC crap. People can't even dress up for Halloween without the fake outrage. It's a costume, it's pretend!

Trump is the anti PC. He's a thorn in the GOPe's side and liberals' side. Works for me!

86 posted on 11/05/2015 7:06:12 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Cruzin' with Cruz!)
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To: Awgie
Donald Trump is the only candidate who will actually step down to be POTUS

Stepping down...no

He'll be stepping up.

If he wins, he'll be in the drivers seat for his business interests for probably the next eight years.

And his financial enemies can kiss their assets goodbye.
87 posted on 11/05/2015 7:23:11 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: novemberslady
Sorry Mrs N-Lady, I do not share your opinion that DT is running in order to improve his business prospects. Where did you find evidence to support your theory that DT is using the Republican primary as a means to growing his business assets? Can you share your evidence...
88 posted on 11/05/2015 7:33:41 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Awgie
I do not share your opinion that DT is running in order to improve his business prospects. Where did you find evidence to support your theory that DT is using the Republican primary as a means to growing his business assets?

Awgie,

That is not what I said.
Don't put words in mouth.
89 posted on 11/05/2015 7:37:19 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: donaldtrump
Hello & Pinging to be polite
A businessman...is a businessman...is a businessman
90 posted on 11/05/2015 7:40:47 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: Awgie

Why do you think being President of The United States is a step down?


91 posted on 11/05/2015 7:41:47 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: novemberslady
Donald Trump is in the unique position of applying for a job that represents a real demotion from his existing career. All other candidates, except perhaps Ben Carson are career politicians.

Donald has riches/wealth beyond the imagination of most people. He has a lifestyle of the rich and famous. He is greatly admired and in great demand, as a wealthy attractive private businessman. He wants nor needs anything.

Running for POTUS is a dirty expensive exhausting venture. It exposes one to hatred, insults, enormous expense and actual threats upon ones life.

I believe Donald is stepping away from his life of the Rich and Famous because he sincerely loves our nation and understands the very dire position we find ourselves.

He doesn't need or want the power for selfish reasons. He isn't owned by shadowy donors. He is wading into the quagmire of national politics at great sacrifice to himself and his family. I pray for his safety as well as the other candidates.

92 posted on 11/05/2015 8:35:27 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Awgie
Donald Trump is in the unique position of applying for a job that represents a real demotion from his existing career

He will further his interests- noble and otherwise by becoming our President.
There is no demotion there.

I believe Donald is stepping away from his life of the Rich and Famous

Becoming the President will not decrease his wealth, and he has already become more famous by seeking the nomination.

I am not arguing about his motives for running, you are.
93 posted on 11/05/2015 8:53:57 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yeb in sombrero would indeed be appropriate....


94 posted on 11/09/2015 3:47:52 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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