Posted on 11/03/2015 7:04:14 PM PST by tcrlaf
There aren’t “scores of libertarians” anywhere in the world, period. They’re a tiny fringe percentage of the population. Even if ALL of them voted against this pot measure, it would be a small enough number that the measure still would have lost even if ALL of them switched their vote to yay.
Come again?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154889/nearly-half-identify-economically-conservative.aspx
Nor do very many Americans self-identify as socially liberal but economically conservative. Just 3 percent did so in a 2012 Gallup poll, in fact.
You’re on a conservative board. Try acting conservative and being informed on the issues affecting your own state before you post.
http://www.newsweek.com/unexpected-side-effects-legalizing-weed-339931
...a drip, drip, drip of unintended consequences. Law-enforcement issues, such as marijuana-intoxicated driving and the illegal movement of vast amounts of cannabis product into other states, are the tip of the iceberg.
Other symptoms of Colorado’s pot culture include increased use among teens, resulting in educational problems in middle schools and high schools, a spike in “ediblesâ€-related emergency room visits, consumption by children and pets resulting in illness and death and regulatory confusion surrounding public consumption and enforcement.
...the cost of increased law enforcement, drugged-driving incidents, fatal crashes, loss of productivity and a huge spike in gang-related crime bring into question the cost-benefit of those dollars.
Teen drug-related school expulsions are also on the rise. And the notion that prisons filled with minor drug offenders would be relieved of overcrowding—a selling point of legalizing marijuana—has been blown to smithereens.
Denver’s homeless population has exploded since Amendment 64 went into effect.
Let me see. Hmmm. Sigh. Yes, let’s have someone who lives across the country lecture someone living in the state that has legalized marijuana about what is going on in their state.
Here, right back at you:
I am a small government conservative. That means I want less government. The war on drugs has brought us nothing but big, intrusive, government and transitioned law enforcement into a gestapo organization that views all “citizens” as criminals.
Enough already.
Don’t pick and choose your biased articles. I live here; I even dare to work in Boulder county, the heart of the liberal movement in this state, and in many ways, the country. And guess what. My life has not changed one bit since marijuana was legalized. Crime happened before, people smoked pot before. Crime happens now, people smoke pot now.
But, I don’t have to worry about the “pot” dealer meeting his customers at the park across from my house anymore.
Provisional ballots not a concern. It is losing almost 2 to 1.
As of 9:30 p.m. with 41 percent of precincts accounted for, the Associated Press called the election with voters rejecting the measure by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, with 65 percent opposing and only 35 percent in favor.
Looks like I picked a bad day to....
Oh, wrong movie. Never mind.
It’s not conservative to only care about what happens to YOUR life. That’s the liberal way.
The war on drugs has in no way made the government view all its citizens as criminals. That’s nothing but pure paranoia speaking. No law enforcement activity related to drugs has affected me one bit. The only thing that has affected me is random checkpoints for drunk drivers. Yet I’m not so selfish and extreme that I would suggest legalizing drunk driving.
If there’s a certain aspect of enforcement that you feel affects you, you can pass a law to change that without throwing out the whole law. No illegal activity gives the police carte blanche to enforce it in any way they choose. There’s a vast difference between rewriting the laws on enforcement powers vs. just legalizing everything that you think might’ve been enforced in a bad way at some point.
Bingo. My concern is some kind of pot initiative on the ballot in Ohio in 2016- just in time to pull in votes for the demrat candidate for prez.
Marijuana may have a very limited use in medicine, but the problem is that doctors will show no restraint in prescribing it, and in its natural state there is no way to meter out an exact dose.
Wrong.
Issue 2 was about monopolies and was put on the ballot solely BECAUSE of issue 3 which would have provided a monopoly of pot growers (the 10 or so in the group that originated the initiative). Issue 3 was not about simple legalization.
The evangelicals and those who think there is already enough drug usage in the population coupled with the people who believe that a law written to purposely give favor to a group of 10 companies were what defeated issue 3 in Ohio. They overwhelmed the potheads.
Voted no on all 3.
South of Dayton, still in Montgomery County.
Also voted no on the community college funding up there.
This Nan Waley lady that wants to take in “immigrants” gotta go.
How nice for you...
One factor had to be this September-like weather. Old timers who never get outside got to the polls.
The law would've been a disaster. This result is a pretty strong indication that voters ARE informed about the details of what we vote for.
Now maybe the legislators will write a sensible law for medical marijuana that's controlled by medical considerations, and doesn't create designated monopolies to control the crop.
In Washington, DC, it is legal to carry up to 2 oz. of pot, to smoke it in a private home, and to grow up to 3 mature plants and 3 young plants. Since DC is under the ultimate control of Congress, Republicans in Congress are preventing the city from developing any other laws regarding control, taxing, and sale of marijuana except what is already approved for medical marijuana. Because of the Congressional blockage, only the language in the referendum approved by 70% of the voters is being followed. Result I suspect is that people currently growing pot have some new friends, and get invited to more private parties. Ah, the joys of “free” enterprise, and gardening.
Regarding drugs in general, I have known crack users who said they would have preferred to use MJ but it was harder to get. They are dead now. There is a major heroin epidemic that is killing a number of people, almost nobody every dies of MJ use. People talk of MJ as a gateway drug, but I have never known a single pot smoker who didn’t start with more addictive tobacco, and I have lived for many years. Legal alcohol is also more addictive than pot. So would you rather pay to lock up a lot of pot smokers, or would you rather pay less for some addiction counseling for those who misuse MJ to the detriment of their health and employability.
Disagree. I am not pro-weed, but pro-choice. I don’t drink liquor, but I don’t think it should be banned because I don’t care for it. You can’t be for limited government and then make the comment you made. IMO you’re no better than the Leftist who want anyone who doesn’t bake a Gay Wedding cake jailed.
That’s ridicules. Murder,rape and robbery involve actions against another against their will. Drug use is a personal choice. (Funny how you don’t have an issue with liquor,caffeine and tobacco all drugs that can be abused and harmful to the user)
So by your logic you should want ALL personal behaviours that can be harmful to the individual policed. North Korea actually runs that way for the record.
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