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To: EveningStar
a tactic that's become a hallmark of his campaign for president, Trump

Do we really want someone who does this kind of juvenile stuff to be President?

Sheesh, let's have someone more dignified.

Ben Carson anyone?

4 posted on 11/01/2015 11:54:18 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
We won't win with "dignified." Refer to Mitt Romney for Exhibit A.

We don't need another amiable loser.

9 posted on 11/01/2015 11:57:08 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Businessmen use their own money to succeed. Politicians take other people's money and fail.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

There’s nothing dignified about our current political system. Trump’s just bringing it out into the open. He plays to win.


10 posted on 11/01/2015 11:57:22 AM PST by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: Balding_Eagle

There’s nothing dignified about our current political system. Trump’s just bringing it out into the open. He plays to win.


11 posted on 11/01/2015 11:57:26 AM PST by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: Balding_Eagle

You can keep Ben Carson anyone.


14 posted on 11/01/2015 12:00:36 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Balding_Eagle

[Ben Carson anyone?]

CARSON has made conflicting statements regarding abortion issues as well as disturbing views on medical treatment for the elderly. Recent statements say he is 100%, however, his writings and statements show another side. Could it be his original sentiments are affecting his candidacy?

The Conservative Review has an unbiased rating of candidates based on their quotes and writings. Carson has received a BAD rating on immigration and foreign affairs. Go to the site to read the comments.

https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/ben-carson#article-13

BEN CARSON - ON MEDICAL CARE FOR THE ELDERLY
(He’s for a panel to decide which seniors deserve lifesaving treatment/end of life care, and which ones don’t.)

[[Our mind-set is to automatically pull out all medical stops, even if that means literally torturing loved ones during their last few months of life. What if rather than always putting terminally ill patients in intensive care units, where we poke, prod, test, and operate ad nauseum, we allowed most people the dignity of dying in relative peace and comfort, at home, surrounded by loved ones, with hospice care or some other medical attendant if necessary?

Agreement on who should be treated and who should not be treated would require an extensive national discussion that could hopefully result in some helpful basic guidelines. Obviously any such guidelines should allow for flexibility and choice. And decisions should be based not merely on age but on the viability of the patient. (From his 1999 book, The Big Picture.)]]

BEN CARSON - ON SOCIAL ISSUES
Carson has expressed support for same-sex civil unions, and following the Supreme Court’s ruling legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states, he conceded the fight was over by declaring the ruling the “law of the land.” (Newsmax)

Despite maintaining a strong pro-life record, in a 1992 interview, Dr. Carson said that while he does not perform abortions, he personally referred women seeking abortions to other doctors. In the same interview, he said that he “would never advocate it’s illegal for a person to get an abortion” (Baltimore Sun)

Dr. Carson co-authored a medical research paper in 1992 where he outlined his support for the use of aborted baby organs for research purposes. Carson defended his past statements, saying “To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?”

Numerous conservatives have expressed that by providing the demand that abortion providers will supply the market and that participating in this practice is being complicit. (Life Site News)

As revelations came to light about Dr. Carson referring the mothers of unborn children with potential birth defects to abortionists, his campaign defended the practice. A campaign spokesman said, “He [Carson] believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information.”

Pressed on whether Carson stands by his decision to do so, the same spokesman said yes. The statement is particularly troubling given that pro-abortion proponents use similar language regarding a decision between the patient and their doctor, but not mentioning the life of the child. (Politico)

Since news surfaced of a 1992 research paper co-authored by Dr. Carson that included the use of fetal tissue, Carson’s stance on abortion has come under immense scrutiny and his defense of his previous medical decisions has been troubling to many in the pro-life movement.

When asked if Carson stands by his past decision to refer patients to abortion doctors,Carson’s Communications Director said, “He believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information.” Additionally, the spokesman went on to say that Carson believes that you can’t stop abortion by making it illegal. The spokesman told Politico, “He [Carson] has always believed that the battle over abortion had to be waged in the hearts and minds of Americans, that you cannot legislate morality. But he also believes we’re winning the debate.” (Politico)

In the 1990s, Carson was a board member of the Baltimore Charitable Foundation which gave $200,000 in grants to Planned Parenthood. When confronted with this fact, and asked if Carson knew about the grants a spokesman said, “It doesn’t really matter.” (Politico)

When asked if he would support abortion in the case of incest or rape, Dr. Carson said, “I would hope that they would very quickly avail themselves of the emergency room, and in the emergency room, they have the ability to administer RU-486 and other possibilities before you have a developing fetus.”

RU-486 is an abortifacient that kills a fertilized egg by artificially denying it the ability to attach to the uterine wall. Using Dr.Carson’s own standard of life beginning at conception, this would then constitute murder. (Politico)

During the campaign Dr. Carson has struggled to define when he believes life begins. He told ABC News that life begins “when the heart stops beating” but later clarified that he meant conception. (Politico)

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/ben-carson#article-11

OTHER ARTICLES OF INTEREST
Al Sharpton
http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/10/dr-ben-carson-says-al-sharpton-and-i-have-the-same-goals/

Carson’s Top Adviser is pro-Farrakhan
http://consciouslyenlightened.com/ben-carsons-top-advisor-wants-chicago-to-hire-farrakhan-and-the-nation-of-islam/

Carson’s Business Dealings
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2906899/Rising-GOP-star-Ben-Carson-endorsed-sham-nutrition-supplement-company-employs-business-manager-linked-pay-play-journalism-scandal.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/29/politics/ben-carson-mannatech/index.html?sr=twCNN103015ben-carson-mannatech1237AMVODtopPhoto&linkId=18361998

Carson’s Flip-Flops
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/ben-carson-2016-issues-republicans-215212

Carson’s Use of Campaign Money
http://fortune.com/2015/10/19/ben-carson-fundraising/?xid=yahoo_fortune


17 posted on 11/01/2015 12:02:56 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“Ben Carson anyone?”

No thanks.


19 posted on 11/01/2015 12:04:38 PM PST by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Do we really want someone who does this kind of juvenile stuff to be President?

Amazing how much free plasticity Trump gets by just posting on twitter. I don't think he has spent a dime on advertising yet. Talk about bang for the buck, we could certainly use some of this kind of wise spending in Washington. Not to mention his stand on immigration, 2A and foreign policy. I do really want someone like this to be President.
20 posted on 11/01/2015 12:05:21 PM PST by JoSixChip
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As a SDA Carson Dr Ben may have registered as a CO when registering for draft. Someone needs to find the answer to that question


42 posted on 11/01/2015 12:23:23 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Balding_Eagle

...Ben Carson anyone?...
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No, thanks.


43 posted on 11/01/2015 12:25:12 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yes I want it. And tweets are not childish they are a sign he understands the new media.

Go Trump!


44 posted on 11/01/2015 12:25:17 PM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ben Carson anyone?


You mean the guy that gets four hours of sleep every hour?


45 posted on 11/01/2015 12:25:32 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: Balding_Eagle
"Ben Carson anyone?'

Have you done any research on Carson?

49 posted on 11/01/2015 12:28:41 PM PST by Amntn
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I wouldn’t want Trump to operate on my brain . . and I don’t want a soft-spoken brain surgeon to lead the huge fight that the next four years are gonna bring if we are to save our country. Not to mention . . the gentleman doctor has no background in running a big organization . . fighting with sub contractors and union officials and competitors galore . . employing thousands of diversified workers . . major architectural and constructional projects here at home and around the world . . learning to control international projects, work within each country’s laws, and maintain a dignified and classy establishment for years afterward all across the world. Just a few of the strengths Trump brings to the American people that Carson does not. How many major . . and I mean yuge . . contracts has Carson negotiated and re-negotiated through the years? How often has he had to use skills learned through those years on how to read people . . not just contracts . . and how to gain the leverage needed to WIN? When has America ever had such a talented man to run for President? One who is paying his own way . . totally SELF supported . . and who will not take a pay check from the tax payers during his Presidency. With all due respect . . are you even aware of the MAJOR differences in these two men???


58 posted on 11/01/2015 12:32:10 PM PST by ElainaVer
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ben Carson anyone?


Zantac anyone?


61 posted on 11/01/2015 12:35:46 PM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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“Ben Carson anyone?”

Amnesty, anyone?


65 posted on 11/01/2015 12:37:30 PM PST by jospehm20
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Carson is for amnesty, so, no.


70 posted on 11/01/2015 12:40:10 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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Yes, I do. And just say no to Amnesty Ben.


78 posted on 11/01/2015 12:48:03 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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You mean “my goals are the same as AL Sharpton’s” Carson? No thanks 8 years of race baiting with Obama is enough.


83 posted on 11/01/2015 12:52:11 PM PST by nclaurel
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To: Balding_Eagle; SamAdams76; mbrfl; chris37; stars & stripes forever; JoSixChip; hoosiermama; ...

Man I better apologize to all of you.

I was being snarky with my post number 4 saying “ben Carson anyone?”.

Sorry.

I have been a Trump fan ever since he publically toyed with being a candidate 4 years ago.


91 posted on 11/01/2015 12:58:07 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Do we really want someone who does this kind of juvenile stuff to be President? Sheesh, let's have someone more dignified. Ben Carson anyone?

I'm sorry that you've not been around political campaigns before. If you think any of Trump's tweets are juvenile, it is on a high plateau compared to most campaigns. Luckily, the press filters out those low comments.

I honestly don't see much difference between tweets and press releases, other than tweets are mercifully brief.

103 posted on 11/01/2015 1:06:17 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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