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To: XenaLee; fungoking

I’m SO glad I retired from law enforcement before the advent of readily available and easy to use video recorders.

What was seen in the 70’s and 80’s when I was wearing the uniform as acceptable use of force situations is now documented on video and in many cases sensationalized to the point where cops are increasingly becoming paralyzed by fear of losing their jobs or going to jail.

Want to know why vehicle pursuits happen so often nowadays?

Want to know why so many people are so openly defiant when interacting with the police?

Because back in the day, everyone knew there was going to be a good ass kicking administered at the end of the pursuit. The same goes with running away or resisting arrest or a lawful order. If I had to chase you down or lay hands upon you so we could conduct our business, you were going to pay for it and everyone back then knew it. There were no busybodies or eyes in the sky with high def video recorders capturing everything that happened. For whatever reason, people with poor impulse control understand bad behavior earns an immediate ass kicking much more readily than the long term ramifications of a court appearance somewhere in the future and they acted accordingly.

As harsh as that may sound, almost always, the bad guy ended up going to jail, even if we had to make a stop at the ER before booking. Now, with so much scrutiny, and so many people pointing at video to make a case for the suspect and against the cop, things have escalated to the point where the bad guy is as likely to end up going to the morgue instead of the hospital then to jail.

Certainly, things have evolved since I retired in 1988, but in my day, if you shot someone, that person had better actually have a gun they were going for. A “furtive movement” or “reaching for his waistband” would never have been accepted as an excuse for shooting an unarmed person.

Back then, failure to comply by putting your hands in your pocket would get you a punch in the face, or at worst, a flashlight across the head. Doing so today gets you shot.

What I’ve written here is not meant to be justification of how the deputy handled the situation that is the subject of this thread. In my time, what the deputy did would have not drawn this kind of attention and whatever complaints that were generated would have probably been met with the response that the girl should have complied when ordered to.

If this particular case does nothing else, it will be a clear message to every cop on the job, if the shit hits the fan, every one behind you is going to make sure you’re in front and get hit first. And for every punk kid that doesn’t want to behave in school, do whatever you want because you will get away with it and probably get a big cash settlement for your troubles.

It is impossible to predict right now just how big this can of worms is that just got opened here, but it’s going to be huge.

I must admit that the increasingly militaristic behavior of the police is disturbing to me as well, but I also understand well why it’s becoming this way. And it’s going to get worse before it gets better.

And I’m glad I’m no longer a cop.


56 posted on 10/29/2015 11:52:29 AM PDT by Nacho Bidnith (Leftists can see racism everywhere except the mirror)
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To: Nacho Bidnith

When you were a cop.....this nation didn’t have a race-baiting, Black Grievance Industry enabling and encouraging Department of Justice and White House. And when you were a cop, ferals were not portrayed as victims by a complicit leftist-biased media.... vs. the law-breaking thugs that they really are in today’s America.

Things change.

And make no mistake. The left will also pull this same victimization BS on behalf of the Muslims that are being mass-imported by Obama as we speak when they break our laws. It’s all part of that leftist plan, in fact.


60 posted on 10/29/2015 12:06:50 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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