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After CNBC debacle, Carson camp vows revolt over debates
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 10/29/15 | BYRON YORK

Posted on 10/29/2015 8:55:44 AM PDT by Liz

After a performance by CNBC moderators that Republicans characterized as both biased and inept, a manager for a top GOP campaign says he will try to organize other campaigns to force the Republican National Committee to make "wholesale change" in the debate process.In an interview shortly after the debate, Barry Bennett, manager of the Ben Carson campaign, called the session here in Colorado "unfair to everyone" and said the current debate structure should not remain in place.

"I think the families need to get together here, because these debates as structured by the RNC are not helping the party," Bennett said. "There's not enough time to talk about your plans, there's no presentation. It's just a slugfest. All we do is change moderators. And the trendline is horrific. So I think there needs to be wholesale change here."

Bennett said he will call Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski Thursday to propose a unified call for change. "Corey and I talk regularly, so I will talk to him," Bennett said. "I will call Frank Sadler (Carly Fiorina's campaign manager), I will call those guys and say listen, we can choose our own network and our own format. We don't need to be led around like prize steers. I think at this point, if five or six of us get together, who generate the largest portion of the audience, we can force change," Bennett said.

Bennett noted that the Carson and Trump campaigns forced CNBC to shorten the debate and allow opening and closing statements. If campaigns can compel that kind of change, the reasoning goes, perhaps they can push for a more fundamental reworking of the debate structure.Bennett is particularly unhappy with the length of time given candidates to address issues — he thinks it's way too short — as well as the debate moderators' attempts to spark fights between the candidates. Bennett had not yet spoken with Carson himself about Wednesday night's debate, but said the two have discussed the problem in the past. "He hates the format," Bennett said of Carson.

Even before the debate was over, Republicans took to social media to complain bitterly about CNBC's questions. The feeling was apparently so strong in the debate room that Ted Cruz created the moment of the night when he denounced the moderators: The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don't trust the media. This is not a cage match. And, you look at the questions — "Donald Trump, are you a comic-book villain?" "Ben Carson, can you do math?" "John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?" "Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?" "Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?" How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about?

The crowd went crazy. And approval was almost as loud when other candidates, including Trump and Rubio, went after the moderators. At one point, Chris Christie told the CNBC group, "Even in New Jersey what you're doing is called rude."


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To: Liz

The COnservative candidates should organize their own debates with Conservative personalities as the moderators, such as Rush, Levin, Hannity, maybe even (choke) O’Reilly.


21 posted on 10/29/2015 9:17:42 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Quote:

“Sadly, the Fox debate can’t be held out as an example.”

Fox News disagrees. They’ve been bragging about their “substantive” debate show compared to CNBC’s all day long.


22 posted on 10/29/2015 9:37:54 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: ifinnegan

“Prince Rebus and his gang of jokers are not needed.”

The R Party has been experiencing some dynamic change lately with the ouster of J. Boehner.

After last night, it’s clear that RNC officials are not capable of managing the Party.

It’s time for Priebus to resign and be replaced by a Republican interested in winning.


23 posted on 10/29/2015 9:51:46 AM PDT by juggernaut
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To: Liz
A..call for change?

Seriously, can we break out the emergency big boy pants and add a tiny bit of fertilizer so someone can grow a pair?

How hard is all of this? Buy a couple hours of prime time on some network, hire a moderator, vet out some questions, and then engage in a debate.

No GOPe involved, no need to include the little table, and easily self-financed from the various family-of-politician-charity-slush-fund superpacs.

Want to make it actually riveting tv? Tackle topics like paying to put food in gas tanks, the replacement of personal charity with government seizure and redistribution, or do something marvelous, spend the first hour just trashing liberal ideas like ‘free college.’

This isn't rocket science.

24 posted on 10/29/2015 9:58:08 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I’m a Trump supporter and I agree with the good doctor on this. They should all boycott any future debates.


25 posted on 10/29/2015 10:10:42 AM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: Liz

Great thread.

“The Times They Are A-Changin’”

Come gather ‘round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’
Or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who
That it’s namin’
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside
And it is ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don’t criticize
What you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin’
Please get out of the new one
If you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin’
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’.

(again)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ


26 posted on 10/29/2015 11:55:40 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Liz

bump


27 posted on 10/29/2015 11:57:18 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Don Corleone
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First, there's no doubt that the MSM-Debate folks were trying to screw Dr. Ben Carson ....

just like they did Herman Cain in 2012 (et al).



It's not "fair", but it's "blood sport politics".

Accordingly, Dr. Ben Carson's campaign staff effectively did serious damage to their boss for NOT being pro-active about the question of Mannatech.

Somebody on Dr. Ben Carson's staff should be FIRED.

Period.



It's a "legal fact" that once money or "renumeration" trades hands, the two parties involved have an "association".

That's what the RICO laws are all about.

Quid Pro Quo.



It's my suspicion that the Mannatech product genuinely helped Dr. Ben Carson's medical condition.

That's a good thing.



But Dr. Ben Carson (for reasons I cannot even imagine) labeled questions about his "association" with Mannatech as ...

liberal news media lies and "propaganda".



WHY did Dr. Ben Carson do that ?

Didn't he know the story and evidence (including pictures that I've posted today at Free Republic) were AVAILABLE to EVERYONE ?

Hell, it only took me FIVE minutes at Google to locate a score of images showing Dr. Ben Carson speaking at Mannatech conferences ($ 120,000 for three speeches).



Doesn't Dr. Ben Carson and his Campaign Staff KNOW-REMEMBER the 2012 Herman Cain debacle ?

Haven't they EVER heard of "Google Searches" ?

Holy Mackerel ... what COSMIC incompetence on display.



And folks still believe that Dr. Ben Carson is "intellectualy" (not mentioning the MORAL aspect) of running a SUCCESSFUL presidential campaign against Hillary Clinton ?

Dr. Ben Carson is a BRILLIANT surgeon --- BUT a complete, utter ARROGANT FOOL to think that he can HIDE "anything" during a presidential campaign.

Period.



Doesn't Dr. Ben Carson and his campaign Staff REMEMBER how the MSM interviewed people who had been Junior High School colleages of Mitt Romney in the 2012 campaign ?

Rest assured ... EVERY malpractice lawuit (imagined or real) against Dr. Ben Carson ...

and EVERY traffic stop sign violation ...

and EVERY "scorned" romantic woman in his life ...

and EVERY disgruntled and jealous staffer / nurse / janitor ...

who's ever been within 100 miles of Dr. Ben Carson ...

will be BRIBED to LIE about him ...

and that doesn't include "questionable" donations from Mannatech, Walmart, Captain Kangeroo, or Mother Theresa.



These are the reasons that I consider Dr. Ben Carson's lie (in front of 11 million TV viewers) the "beginning of the end" of his 2016 presidential campaign.

Heck ... Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton's "Opposition Reseach Teams" probably have already collected the serial numbers on the $ 100 bills used in the $ 120,000 total transactions between Dr. Ben Carson and Mannatech.



Dr. Ben Carson's 2016 presidential campaign is "over".

Period.




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28 posted on 10/29/2015 7:01:13 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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