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Sheriff to Announce South Carolina Deputy Ben Fields to Be Fired: Sources
NBC News ^ | 10/28/2015 | NBC

Posted on 10/28/2015 7:33:59 AM PDT by ScottWalkerForPresident2016

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To: SoftballMominVA
The audience is everything.

Inner-city high school teacher here. And what you said is only partly true. Yes, sometimes a student is disruptive to get attention. That's not uncommon, particularly in the lower grades.

But there could be other reasons for that student's misbehavior. A student might use a cell phone in class to deliberately challenge the teacher's authority. Or the student might simply want to talk on the phone at that particular moment.

I've seen a lot of that. And in these last two cases, removing the audience would have no effect. In fact, it would be a student "victory".

101 posted on 10/28/2015 8:56:53 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: gogeo

The important question is do you know the state of the school in question, which you clearly don’t.


102 posted on 10/28/2015 8:59:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Chainsawj

And that is the entire point. The fat black child is in charge. Not the duly elected Authorities. Her. The fat black one that won’t get up. She’s in charge. Not you the tax payer. She decides how your tax dollars will be spent for education. She decides what happens in the classroom. Not the teacher, not the other students, not the Principal, not the Deputy, not the Sherriff, She is the Authority now!

That’s is the entire purpose of this fake outrage.


103 posted on 10/28/2015 9:02:35 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

They should just let the ferals run wild then.


104 posted on 10/28/2015 9:07:52 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: freeandfreezing
How do you know the student in the video is a "feral youth"?

Playing Captain Obvious doesn't play to my strengths, but I'm willing.

You have a young lady who:

---Uses her cell phone in class.

---Refuses to stop when asked by teacher.

---Refuses to leave the classroom when asked by the teacher.

---Refuses to leave when instructed by the teacher.

---Refuses to leave when instructed by an administrator.

---REFUSES TO LEAVE WHEN INSTRUCTED BY A COP.

Let me guess, you looked at her skin color.

Call it Gogeo's law...The first person to play the race card has lost the argument.

I assume you're trying to be clever, when your argument suggests you need to be checked for a brain injury. Are the actions I described like anything in your experience? In your own school experience?

105 posted on 10/28/2015 9:11:58 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: gogeo

Yep, and yep.


106 posted on 10/28/2015 9:12:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Leaning Right
There is also a good chance that today they do this to a kid acting bratty. Tomorrow the teacher may call the police on some kid for expressing his patriotism or wearing a cross. I realize some of these kids are out of control and I realize some of the parents are irresponsible. But what is really going on here? Intimidation, pure and simple. They are conditioning the kids. You do what we say or we will bring in the cops to take you out.

Pretty scary if you ask me. We are already living in a police state. Might makes right.

107 posted on 10/28/2015 9:13:33 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: Yo-Yo
This story tells anyone everything they need to know about the school district and the school in question.

And the day will come when baving this type of issue to deal with will be regarded as "the good old days."

Show me how a school, school district and community handles this problem, and I can tell you what their future holds...and I'm not unique. It's not complicated, but it seems to be difficult for some.

108 posted on 10/28/2015 9:18:11 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: gogeo

Based upon watching the video, my opinion is that the officer used excessive force. He flipped her backwards, chair and all, onto the floor and then threw her. What should he have done? Well, here are some ideas: (1) two adults could easily carry her, chair and all, out of the classroom, without resorting to any violence; (2) if an officer thinks physical force will be required against an unarmed person and there is no immediate physical danger to himself or others, why not call for backup before going WWE on her? I would fire this guy in a heartbeat.


109 posted on 10/28/2015 9:21:22 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: defconw

Evidently, the principal called the officer on duty. And, I am sure, back in your day, students were probably more disciplined.


110 posted on 10/28/2015 9:23:23 AM PDT by odawg
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To: kenmcg
Say what you will, but the kid was no immediate threat and the cop showed poor judgement.

I believe you're right. The office used too much force. The question becomes, what is the right way for dealing with this type of situation? Any suggestions?

111 posted on 10/28/2015 9:23:41 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: gogeo

In my county a few weeks ago a kid last year punched a teacher.
This year the same kid who is known as a trouble maker and likes the race card played did it again.
The two PT teachers restrained the kid so as not to hit the Dean again.

Result.
Race card played. two teachers fired with over 40 years teaching between them. Lost pensions, health care etc.
Kid and family now sues the school district as they said their kid hurt his arm during the restraint.

All kids at the school know this kid as a trouble maker, know the kid is pretending his arm is hurt.

That is the problem today and generated by the fairy in the white house plus his social justice groups.


112 posted on 10/28/2015 9:24:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: gogeo

The officer could have just forcefully removed her from the chair without knocking her to the floor and then throwing her. There has to be reasonable risk to justify force. This was clearly excessive.


113 posted on 10/28/2015 9:25:04 AM PDT by bjcoop
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To: The Toll

No, I don’t think so. There are ways to punish unarmed and non-violent but disruptive and disobedient students that do not involve police officers slamming them on the floor and tossing them across the room. It’s not just a black thing.


114 posted on 10/28/2015 9:25:47 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: JesusIsLord
Spring Valley: Latest “Racist, Police Brutality” Story Changes with New Video…
115 posted on 10/28/2015 9:27:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: cuban leaf
This occurrence is so rare as to be irrelevant.

The kids defiance or the cop's response?

My experience was that some case of a kid's defiance was almost a daily thing.

Staff members had to restrain students who were fighting multiple times in a month.

Our SRO had to get physical once or twice a semester.

116 posted on 10/28/2015 9:28:06 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: bjcoop

threw her, did you actually watch the video or take the talking points form the media?


117 posted on 10/28/2015 9:28:41 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DJ MacWoW

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118 posted on 10/28/2015 9:29:17 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: defconw
You do make a point. As I noted in a previous post, I'm an inner city school teacher. And I've seen school security and school police do some pretty iffy things, constitutionally, over the years.

So there is some reason to support the "police state" theory of yours. But it's important to note that a school is not like a public park or a sidewalk! One's rights are necessarily more limited in any school, just as your rights are more limited when you're in the army or at work.

From my perspective, the real danger here is that we are "teaching" students that it is OK to have no respect for reasonable, agreed-upon rules. That lesson will surely stay with them in later on in life.

119 posted on 10/28/2015 9:29:17 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: manc

It comes up for me.


120 posted on 10/28/2015 9:30:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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