Posted on 10/28/2015 3:54:51 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
NewsChannel 21's Lauren Martinez reports on an explsosion inside a World War II tank , killing two people, Deschutes County Sheriff Deputies said.
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“Is that list from the Twilight 2000 RPG?”
Yes. The list is derived from the U.S. Munitions List found in the CFR and a number of arms control regulations and documents. Now, if you are looking for the real thing and don’t mind some Federal scrutiny... :)
The U.S. Army Rock Island Arsenal, Israel Military Industries Ltd., Pakistan industries, and a variety of other places are sources for tank munitions...and inert rounds for tanks and artillery can be found online in a variety of places as collectibles.
Why yes, yes that is an ammo list from the Twilight 2000 RPG.
I played that game in the 1990’s
ninja’d by nine seconds :)
Most likely a mis-fire and they opened the breach too soon. It’s been 30+ years since I went through loader trainer and my MS exacerbates my CRS but if I recall you NEVER open the breach immediately after a mis-fire as the round could still go off.
Damn, and I thought 5.56mm was expensive!
Looks similar to the price list for baby body parts via Planned Infanticide.....
I know a few people who are active in MVPA and the restoration and reenactment community.
There are a number of Progressive groups and political leaders who have been trying to shut them down for a long time now. Now-retired Sen Carl Levin was one of the worst.
This isn’t going to turn out well for people who restore and operate historic military vehicles. The Left has been waiting and ready for an event like this.
heh heh heh....gotta be quick around this bunch
Note to self - don’t buy a home defense weapon that requires Israeli ammo. Scratch Raytheon off the list, as well.
Made by Buick in Flint, MI...
Nice pic. (sad story)
Bender I knew it was you dude
You were one that drove that tank in low speed chase in San Diego 30 years right
RIP.
Not precisely. From a source in that line of business:
The two were firing live 76mm rounds for a film crew, making a film for an interactive exhibit. How the round exploded - if that's what it did - inside the Hellcat's open turret is under investigation. As the accident happened on the range of the Central Oregon Shooting Sports Association in unincorporated territory, the investigation will be led by the county Sheriff, L. Shane Nelson. ATF and Oregon State Police have provided investigative assistance.
An emergency call was made immediately. First responders found the victims in the turret; some stories say they still had minimal signs of life, but they were pronounced at the scene.
There has been no indication of whether they were firing continuously (which seems unlikely) or responding to a misfire at the time of the mishap. Overheating (cook-off) or a premature or mis-run misfire drill can produce out-of-battery firing, very bad news in an armored vehicle's main gun. Mechanical failure can't be ruled out, also: the gun was 71 years old, which shouldn't matter much with a steel gun, but the ammunition may have been past its use-by date.
Actually, you're exactly correct:
As we noted, the vehicle was an M18 Gun Motor Carriage (tank destroyer). Preston bought the TD in Denver in 1999 and enjoyed displaying it at car shows ("It's a 1944 Buick!") he would say, parking it in the appropriate area) or for charity fund-raisers. He painted his wife's name - Rachel - on the vehicle's flank.
The vehicle served in World War II for the US and had wound up back in the US after being surplused by the Yugoslavian Army. Preston, a school-trained mechanic as well as a pilot and philanthropist, also owned a DUKW amphibious truck, and, reportedly, an M5A1 Stuart light tank. He had owned a firearms dealership.
He told the Portland Oregonian once:
"The craziest thing I've ever done with it? At a car show in Portland, I showed up early and towed a 1984 Camaro with no engine in it into the middle of the grounds. Soon there were hundreds of cars there, and I had the announcer say "Would whoever owns the 1984 Camaro, please move it, or we're going to have it towed away." Of course, nobody moved it. With everyone watching, I fired up the tank destroyer and crushed that Camaro. The crowds loved it." . ... .
This is one of the starting places, and given the geographical location of the incident, I'd expect that the late Mr Preston was at least aware of them as a potential source, if not a regular customer. There are others.
Pong! Thanks, pal.
Oh, yeah. The Hellcat, one of about 250 built, originally ran a 400 hp R-975-C4, 9-cylinder Continental radial aircraft engine, slightly detuned [compression and timing] to run on military [unleaded] Mogas rather than aviation fuel, though the Yugoslavs [JNA] may have re-engined the thing with a Diesel, as they did some of their M10 TDs.
That engine was also used in some versions of the Sherman tank, including the M4A1 we reworked for the "Blues Brothers" movie [one of 3 used at the climactic Mayor Daley Plaza scene toward the end of the flick by the *Illinois National Guard*, unfortunately cut from some of the DVD version commercial releases] which we re-engined with a 500-hp Ford GAF engine from a M26 Pershing. That radial got a 20-ton Hellcat up to 55-60 MPH or better, and I have to wonder how one would run with the extra 100 hp of a GAF in it...
The M4A1 Sherman had the same 76mm gun and engine, but weighed in around 10 tons heavier and 20mph slower.
Oh, yeah. The Hellcat, one of about 250 built, originally ran a 400 hp R-975-C4, 9-cylinder Continental radial aircraft engine, slightly detuned [compression and timing] to run on military [unleaded] Mogas rather than aviation fuel, though the Yugoslavs [JNA] may have re-engined the thing with a Diesel, as they did some of their M10 TDs.
That engine was also used in some versions of the Sherman tank, including the M4A1 we reworked for the "Blues Brothers" movie [one of 3 used at the climactic Mayor Daley Plaza scene toward the end of the flick by the *Illinois National Guard*, unfortunately cut from some of the DVD version commercial releases] which we re-engined with a 500-hp Ford GAF engine from a M26 Pershing. That radial got a 20-ton Hellcat up to 55-60 MPH or better, and I have to wonder how one would run with the extra 100 hp of a GAF in it...
The M4A1 Sherman had the same 76mm gun and engine, but weighed in around 10 tons heavier and 20mph slower.
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