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DOJ Claims Apple Should Be Forced To Decrypt iPhones Because Apple, Not Customers, 'Own' iOS
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| 10/26/15
| Tim Cushing
Posted on 10/26/2015 6:15:04 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: mikey_hates_everything
Is also like telling Zimmerman to include a back door or go to jail.
Not quite so funny.
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posted on
10/26/2015 7:39:55 PM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
To: jsanders2001
I’ve said this before, but IMO worth repeating; 21st Century America would be dreamland for Stalin and Beria - surveillance equipment was (and is) expensive and finicky, but in US of SR, the targets buy, install, and maintain incredibly sophisticated and capable equipment for you!
How the courts could even entertain the line of reasoning given here is in and of itself chilling.
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posted on
10/26/2015 7:55:57 PM PDT
by
The Antiyuppie
("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
To: Enlightened1
More reasons for:
1. Any purchasers outside of the US (never mind inside of the US) would be out of their minds to buy US-made equipment.
2. If any high-tech companies are still actually legally headquartered in the US and/or do development here, they should leave, immediately, for Europe or Asia.
Wasn’t it not too long ago when we were accusing the Chinese of putting in “secret functionality” in chips and code (which I don’t believe has ever been proven)? Some nerve.
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posted on
10/26/2015 8:02:38 PM PDT
by
The Antiyuppie
("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
To: Enlightened1
All of fedgov - ALL OF IT - needs complete dismantling and restructuring on a much much smaller and constitutionally-limited foundation.
Would help also to bar most of the current employees from ever holding positions in the rebuilt one, as most have develped bad habits we do not want resurfacing again.
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posted on
10/26/2015 8:26:07 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: Enlightened1
So XYZ Safe and Vault should give the government the combination to every safe they manufacture because XYZ Safe and Vault holds the patent on their combination lock????
I don't think so.
To: Enlightened1
So you rent a house and therefore have no rights under the Constitution?
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posted on
10/26/2015 10:30:18 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: Enlightened1
The filing also challenges Apple's assertions about the burdensomeness of the request. The government says Apple makes $100 million per day in profit. How can the unlocking of one phone -- no matter how many man hours might go towards testimony and cross-examination -- even begin to make a dent in this pile of money?DOJ obviously missing the Constitutional point - expecting free stuff from a company in order to do their dirty business.
Apple ought to tell them that since a day's wage came up, perhaps a bill for $100 million per device unlocked should be considered....
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posted on
10/27/2015 4:24:22 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
To: Enlightened1; dayglored; ShadowAce; ThunderSleeps; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; ...
Another article on the DOJ arguing that Apple should be forced to unlock iOS devices, claiming that the reason is that Apple owns the operating system, not the customer, who only licenses it. While that is true, that's akin to saying because the Leasing owns the your leased Car, that company should have the power to open your trunk and let the cops search it, and then open the locked briefcase they find in the trunk, merely because they are the owners of the vehicle lease. Apple may own the operating system, they do not own the data that is on the iOS device, or the iPhone on which it exists. PING! Ping to dayglored, Shadow Ace, and ThunderSleeps for their lists also, as this issue spills over into all devices.
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posted on
10/27/2015 11:27:53 AM PDT
by
Swordmaker
( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
To: Enlightened1
iOS is apple’s. The hardware is mine, and the data it contains is most definitely mine.
To: AFreeBird
Right these are criminals trying to claim some how they still own something. They are full of crap.
To: Enlightened1
If Apple owns it, its theirs. The government has no right to it.
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posted on
10/27/2015 5:31:46 PM PDT
by
Delta 21
(Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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