Posted on 10/25/2015 8:16:57 PM PDT by napscoordinator
Kind of took that one personal, it was a general comment and you choked on it.
A lot of "Free Traders" are really gloBULList fascists....That is just my opinion. Some others agree with me
The divide is not “liberals vs conservatives”. It’s globalists vs. Americans.
If we elect an American president for the first time since 1984, we can work out all the other stuff among ourselves. If we elect a globalist, there won’t be enough left of “us” to work out anything.
And all you “global economy” people here - you are no better than the Clintons. Shame on you all.
—Jim Noble
1) It works as long as the cash flow continues. Would appear the cash flow is from liquidation, not more sales revenue? But since a private company that info is not available?
2) This IS how our govt works, too many people overpaid. But see observation #1.
3) There are short term rewards and long term rewards. They both have different effects.
4) I would guess there is a tight job market, that affects this situation right now. How many good people are looking for a new situation but can't find one.
5) There appears to be a family situation. Like many liberals he is focused on what his brother has gotten. When it starts affecting the bosses lifestyle, this situation will change. Socialism always moves into a two class society. Find me a time in history when this did not happen.
6) This reminds me of all the collective societies/farms I remember as a kid, don't think any of them survived.
7) Note that the head cheese has NOT given up power, what does that tell you?
I would add,
8) how much work has been contracted out at a much lower rate?
I'm not exactly sure how I hit a nerve, but I've decided to exit the conversation.
What you said is true, especially about the “two class” society.
There are two great fallacies that dog mankind, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, both of which have to keep being “reinforced” when human memory fails to retain it:
1.) “Ye will be as Gods”
2.) “Socialism works, it just hasn’t been done ‘right’ yet.”
The first one speaks for itself, the second one...well, there is a lot of misery, hate, war and death that is cycled over, and over, and over again, and then people understand for a short period of time that it doesn’t work, memory fades, and the cycle starts all over again.
I got no problem with this.
Because “Free Trade” as practiced on many scales is wrong, that doesn’t make socialism right.
No, the engineers who were already making 70k did NOT get raises, to my understanding.
But, it is the private sector. They are free to do this. However, I know that I would not want to deal with this company, as the owner does not understand relative value.
I recall that debate, and it wasn’t knee-jerk wishing it would fail. It was fatalistic recognizing that the pay structure destroyed the incentive to try and work harder.
It is a microcosm of socialism - bringing extra value has no effect on one’s recompense.
This is a private company paying wages it wants to pay. Where is the socialism?
and the cycle starts all over again.
The French Revolution was against something. The carnage went on for a long time.
I think it will be the French version for us this time around.................
See my reply at #75.
So was Henry Ford a socialist?
I do not care how they run their business, but apparently he is using much of his own money, and then some of his business partners, which is allegedly breaking legal agreements.
Did Henry Ford pay his assembly line workers the same wage as his designers and top managers?
The richest Americans and companies already have plenty of cash
The reason these rich Americans and companies aren't investing and "creating jobs" is that most American consumers (customers) are broke
Rich Americans actually don't "create jobs"--the whole economy creates jobs We've been trying the "tax cuts for the rich" approach for three decades, and it is making the inequality problem worse, not better
The problem with the economy is not inequality of income. The problem with the economy is the government encrustation of over-regulation and taxation on the hull of the ship of commerce.
People who advocate this approach, as even (bafflingly) some on FR do, are unadulteratedly foolish at best, and at worst, are dedicated socialists or communists.
The foolish people (who in many cases would fit the classical definition of ‘useful idiots’) don’t seem to be able to think far enough ahead to ask the question “What happens to this company when money stops being pumped into it articifically?” (whether pumped in artificially by an irresponsible owner, or by a government run program)
The people found at the other end of that spectrum, know full well what they would like to see this lead to. As far as I am concerned, they are evil even if they DO believe in their heart that this would somehow work on a large scale.
I agree.
As I inferred in another post, there is a never-ending supply of people who believe in the perpetual motion machine of socialism.
When people go through the misery and bloodletting that it causes, they all understand. And that lasts for part of a generation, until people begin to believe it will work again.
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