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Gun Rights Advocates Have A Devastating New Argument Against Gun Control. Here It Is.
The Journal -Independent Journal Review ^ | July 2015 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 10/23/2015 12:10:43 PM PDT by Torcert

American gun owners are beginning to respond with a fresh, powerful argument when facing anti-gun liberals. Here it is, in its entirety. Ready?
“Screw you.” That’s it. Except the first word isn’t “Screw.”

It’s not exactly a traditional argument, but it’s certainly appropriate here. The fact is that there is no point in arguing with liberal gun-control advocates because their argument is never in good faith.They slander gun owners as murderers. They lie about their ultimate aim, which is to ban and confiscate all privately owned weapons. And they adopt a pose of reasonability, yet their position is not susceptible to change because of evidence, facts or law. None of those matter – they already have their conclusion. This has to do with power – their power.

You can’t argue with someone who is lying about his position or whose position is not based upon reason. You can talk all day about how crime has diminished where concealed carry is allowed, while it flourishes in Democrat blue cities where gun control is tightest. You can point to statistics showing that law-abiding citizens who carry legally are exponentially less likely to commit gun crimes than other people. You can cite examples of armed citizens protecting themselves and their communities with guns. You can offer government statistics showing how the typical American is at many times greater risk of death from an automobile crash, a fall, or poisoning than from murder by gun.

But none of that matters, because this debate is not about facts. It’s about power. The liberal anti-gun narrative is not aimed at creating the best public policy but at disarming citizens the liberal elite looks down upon – and for whom weapons represent their last-ditch ability to respond to liberal overreach.

Put simply, liberal elitists don’t like the fact that, at the end of the day, an armed citizenry can tell them, “No.”

So they argue in bad faith, shamelessly lying, libeling their opponents, and hiding their real endgame. Sure, sometimes the mask slips and a liberal politician like Mike Bloomberg or Diane Feinstein reveals their true agenda, but mostly they stay on-message.

For example, Barack Obama, who always tries to reassure us bitter clingers that he doesn’t want to take our guns, speaks longingly about the Australian plan – which was confiscation of most viable defensive weapons from the civilian population.

Obama is lying – about gay marriage, about your doctor – and he is likewise lying about guns. The minute he could disarm every American civilian he would, something particularly alarming in light of his pal Bill Ayers’ infamous observation that ‘fundamentally transforming’ America would require killing at least 25 million citizens.

No wonder free Americans are done pretending the gun argument is a rational debate and are responding with an extended middle finger – and the challenge to come and take their arms. The fact remains that any outright attempt to take the arms from tens of millions of American gun owners would almost certainly result in a second Civil War. And we all know how the first Civil War went for the Democrats.

So, through a campaign of shaming, dissembling, and outright slander, liberals are trying to talk Americans into giving up their weapons voluntarily. There’s always another “common sense” restriction to enact, spurred on by a tragedy that the last “common sense” restriction didn’t prevent and that the proposed new “common sense” restriction would not have prevented. They want to do it in baby steps, and with our cooperation, since they cannot do it by force.

So until the gun control argument becomes a real argument instead of a transparent power grab, there’s only one appropriate response to liberal gun banners. And it’s similar to “Screw you.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; guns
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To: wastoute

41 posted on 10/23/2015 12:40:04 PM PDT by IncPen (Not one single patriot in Washington, DC.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The bottom line is that Registration means you need the Government’s permission to exercise your rights.

Not going to happen.


42 posted on 10/23/2015 12:40:26 PM PDT by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Torcert

This same tactic applies to the entire liberal agenda, not just gun control. Abortion, illegal immigration, muslime apologism, BlackLivesMatter racism, homosexuality, religion ... you name it.

We’re never going to convince them they’re wrong because their “arguments” defy reason. So why bother? Stop them any way you can, including civil disobedience. But don’t think for a second that logic is going to sway them.


43 posted on 10/23/2015 12:40:41 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Malone LaVeigh

That’s good.


44 posted on 10/23/2015 12:40:46 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Torcert

Lead first. The only way to give them up.


45 posted on 10/23/2015 12:41:00 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Torcert

You can’t argue with someone who is lying about his position or whose position is not based upon reason.

Been saying those almost exact words for years now.

Gun control activists are liar’s who you simply can not negotiate with. Gun owners are in favor of gun laws designed to punish misuse and prevent the wrong people from getting guns. Gun control activists exploit that to get their true goals advanced.


46 posted on 10/23/2015 12:41:18 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Noumenon

well they like to interpet the 2nd amendment their way and I have mine.


47 posted on 10/23/2015 12:41:42 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: FRiends
As far as the left is concerned, Americans cannot
be trusted with lead delivery systems.



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48 posted on 10/23/2015 12:42:02 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Donate monthly and end FReepathons.)
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To: Torcert

....which causes me to wonder about those mass shootings.


49 posted on 10/23/2015 12:42:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Hugin

Agree 100%

You won’t convince the collectivist zealots with logic and reason because their position in not based on logic and reason.

But others will be convinced - and the polls are proving this to be the case.


50 posted on 10/23/2015 12:42:52 PM PDT by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Torcert

Screw You implies love,

Feel the LOVE!


51 posted on 10/23/2015 12:44:41 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I can read that ...


52 posted on 10/23/2015 12:46:30 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Torcert

Yep. We will never register a gun or turn in a gun for any reason.


53 posted on 10/23/2015 12:46:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
It will funny if CWII is the South forcing the North and CA back into the Union. LOL!

Now, stop and think about that.

The areas you speak of are heavily populated with people accustomed to handouts and freebies, are heavily in debt, mainly because they are run by people who hang on to power by promising freebies.

Do you really want to fight to saddle the rest of the country with people who thrive on regulating the productive to death and giving away the rest of what they make to people who are nonproductive or not even supposed to be there?

Besides, there is a large area through to Canada from Texas that isn't Liberal (excluding Minnesota and Illinois) and would side with the South. Most of Flyover Country is conservative, and just about any rural area.

54 posted on 10/23/2015 12:50:33 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Torcert
liberal elitists don’t like the fact that, at the end of the day, an armed citizenry can tell them, “No.”

Elitism + paternalism + ends justify the means + might makes right = libtardism.

Elitism and paternalism means that libtards know what is best for you. Then the ends justify the means and might makes right means that that can use force to make you do what is right for you without shame or guilt.

55 posted on 10/23/2015 12:52:05 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Smokin' Joe

On second thought we may have to fight to let them go. :-)


56 posted on 10/23/2015 12:52:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yes, it is something when they let the mask slip.

And it seems like the 1st Democratic debate was a turning point of sorts on both their Socialism and disarmament fantasies.


57 posted on 10/23/2015 12:52:15 PM PDT by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Tzimisce

F them.


58 posted on 10/23/2015 12:52:33 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Torcert

2nd Amendment bump for later.....


59 posted on 10/23/2015 12:56:10 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: Still Thinking
Plus their “compromises” are fake. You “compromise” by ceding ground, while they compromise by letting you give up less than in their wettest, most fascist dreams. The civil rights ratchet only clicks one direction with them, the wrong one.

That is an excellent way of phrasing that - and something that may not have been readily apparent to most.

Their idea of ‘compromise’ is that we give up more and more freedom while they are ‘gracious’ in letting us do so..

60 posted on 10/23/2015 12:56:47 PM PDT by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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