Posted on 10/21/2015 11:49:36 AM PDT by Isara
True conservatives support Cruz, it’s that simple.
And how large is the Conservative caucus relative to the GOP voters in NH?
True Conservatives stop supporting Cruz once they check his immigration position and other issues, which too many "conservative" groups seem too eager either not to analyze or to actively cover up.
And Id like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system, and in particular about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows. If this amendment is adopted to the current bill the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status.** They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed under the terms of the bill they would be eligible for LPR status as well, so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principle objective to provide a legal status for those who are here illlegally to be out of the shadows. This amendment would allow that to happen
And a second point to those advocacy groups that are so passionately engaged. In my view if this committee rejects this amendment, and I think everyone here views it as quite likely this committee will choose to reject this amendment, in my view that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will fail in the House of Representantives. I dont want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass, and so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows, then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromise to come together and this amendment I believe if this amendment were to pass the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically, and so I would urge the committee to give it full consideration and to adopt the amendment.
http://www.kausfiles.com/2015/05/21/cruz-and-amnesty-round-ii-the-telltale-video/
Another article on this topic, describing how Cruz redefines amnesty as only referring to a pathway to citizenship, and wont declare he supports deportation:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/08/ted_cruz_vs_donald_trump_whos_stronger_on_immigration.html
Uh, by being CONSERVATIVE, unlike many of the morons in the race??? Did this question really need an article to answer it? If he won some liberal caucus, THAT might justify an article.
Awesome! A grass roots organisation that already endorsed Cruz took a caucus of its own members, and Cruz won!
/in other news, water is wet, fire is hot, and Obama is stupid.
So what exactly is a "true conservative," anywise? Is there some kind of dictionary definition or something that defines this somewhere?
See Ronald Reagan to get a good idea.
He was our last true conservative president.
No one has even tried to come close since ..
People who actually put in the time to actually show up and vote in a straw poll are people who are reliable primary voters.
Your get your information from the Kausfiles....BWAAAAAAAHAHAHA!
I could give you a laundry list but if you’re a long standing member in good standing at this forum, you already know that answer.
Two can play that game (unfortunately), but your position is weaker than you apparently realize.
“People who actually put in the time to actually show up and vote in a straw poll are people who are reliable primary voters.”
Exactly. These are the workers who will go out and get others to support their candidate and get them to the polls. Many just talk, but these people will do the work to actually get the votes for their candidate.
Cruz already has workers in every county/parish in 20 states and that includes Iowa/New Hampshire/South Carolina where the first caucus and primaries will be.
Will be interesting to see what happens after South Carolina which is historically the time fringe candidates drop out.
Well, I know what “the list” is and I probably fit it better than most people on this forum.
But my belief is that requiring someone to “fit a list” before they are a “true conservative” is just stupid. It encourages people to not think for themselves, because they have to fit a list to “qualify” for some “ism.” “Ideology” directs thinking, instead of thinking directing “ideology.”
So while I am more of a “true conservative” than most people on this forum, at the same time, I don’t really care about being a “true conservative.” I am what I am, and if people don’t like it, then the problem lies with them, not with me.
Why is it that every time I come across a stinking pile of horsepucky on FR, it has your handle appended?
But you would ultimately fail since it requires basically ignoring Trump's immigration paper. Even Trump's plan where the "good ones" come back in based on merit is better than Cruz's "plan" of 40 million illegals given amnesty, which, by the way, Cruz isn't even honest in telling us about.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! It has video of Cruz saying word for word what is quoted.
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