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The effect of Canada’s election may be felt in the US sooner than you think
Hotair ^ | 10/21/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/21/2015 7:30:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The dust has settled north of the border and the Canadians have swept a new, liberal government into power under the leadership of Justin Trudeau. The first question which likely jumped up in the minds of many Americans was… so what? Canada is an ally and a strong trading partner, particularly when it comes to oil. They make some awesome maple syrup and have rather odd tastes in donuts, but aside from that we can pretty much leave them to their own devices, right? The liberals in charge may be far more fanatical about environmental issues and are more likely to criticize conservative values, but aside from that what’s really going to change? They’re unlikely to cut off their nose to spite their own face by shutting off our oil deals and there was never anything to be done about the donuts to begin with.

But it may be more complicated than that… at least a little. One of the first shots fired across the bow is highlighted by the Washington Post today. Canada will pull out of the fight against ISIS.

Justin Trudeau, the dashing son of political legend Pierre Trudeau, ushered in Canada’s first political dynasty with a stunning victory in national elections. But the incoming prime minister made clear Tuesday that he will chart his own path and introduce change after nine years of Conservative government.

A day after defeating Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Trudeau told President Obama by phone that he would make good on a campaign promise to withdraw Canada’s jets from the U.S.-led bombing campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. Canada has committed a half-dozen fighter planes, a fraction of the American air power in the fight.

So we’re losing a commitment of… six planes. I don’t think our entire strategy would collapse based on that change even if we had an actual strategy in Syria. But symbolism still counts for something on the international stage and Canada is regarded as one of our staunchest allies. Having them snub the President on military matters is a bad sign which lends credence to the growing sense that America can no longer hold together a coalition against the dark forces of the world. I’d love to post an argument against that perception here but there’s a lot of truth to it.

Returning to the energy and trade question, in the same report it’s also noted that Trudeau claims to be a supporter of Keystone XL and that he disagrees with Barack Obama on that subject. But at the same time he wants a warm relationship, rather than one that “focuses on a single disagreement on a pipeline.”

Be that as it may, simply wanting Keystone approved isn’t the same as actively pushing to get it done. It also ties back to that whole international perception thing. As the Daily Caller pointed out last night, a meek Trudeau will undermine efforts to continue to build America’s reputation as an energy powerhouse.

Trudeau may be pro-Keystone, but he’s more concerned with having good relations with the U.S. than an oil pipeline. Trudeau believes good relations with the U.S. should not hinge on Keystone’s approval. It’s unlikely Trudeau will openly criticize Obama over Keystone like Harper was keen to do. In fact, Trudeau’s Liberal Party is rabidly anti-Keystone.

The Liberal Party’s campaign co-chair recently resigned after a memo he wrote was leaked to the press detailing how TransCanada, the company looking to build Keystone, could effectively lobby a Liberal Canadian government.

None of this amounts to a crisis situation for the United States and we have much bigger fish to fry elsewhere. But it’s still worth keeping this in mind and seeing how Canada fares under their new liberal leaders. In terms of their relationship with us it’s clearly not the beginning of any sort of back bacon driven cold war, but it’s one more relationship for the United States where the situation is deteriorating.

They can keep those Tim Horton donuts, though. Yeesh.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; justintrudeau; liberalidiot; stephenharper
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1 posted on 10/21/2015 7:30:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Talked to a friend of mine in Canada and have done a fair amount of reading on their elections ... good grief is this bad. The Left banded together for a wholesale rejection of Harper and Conservatives.

Yeah the NDP did poorly but that was just because Canadians didn’t want to split the vote.

Stunning.


2 posted on 10/21/2015 7:32:31 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeekAndFind; Squawk 8888; Former Proud Canadian
It sounds to me as if Trudeau just might be a twinkle toed little Communist.But that shouldn't be a surprise given his pedigree...with a mother who....

Well,I'll keep it clean...this *is* a family website.

3 posted on 10/21/2015 7:41:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Probably not so stunning.

Even though Harper led the Conservative Party, he really was not that conservative.

As a result, millions of disappointed conservative Canadian voters stayed home not seeing the point in continuing to support “conservative” politicians who are not truly conservative.

Too bad many Republican politicians fall into this same trap.


4 posted on 10/21/2015 7:42:04 AM PDT by Menthops (If you are reading this..... the GOPe hates you!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some of us actually like those Tim Horton doughnuts. They even have a few franchises in New York and Ohio which serve them.


5 posted on 10/21/2015 7:42:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Menthops

Interesting and thanks for the input. I don’t at all pretend to know all too much about Canadian politics so appreciate any info I find here and from my friend up there.


6 posted on 10/21/2015 7:43:14 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Menthops

Sounds like Canada got their own 0blama.


7 posted on 10/21/2015 7:46:32 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long

The best looking guy always wins?


8 posted on 10/21/2015 7:48:34 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Jane Long

Trudeau is not a President he’s just the Leader of the largest party and if he trashes the party they will throw him out and pick another to be Leader/Prime Minister


9 posted on 10/21/2015 8:03:11 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Jane Long

Worse than Obama. Far far worse.

And Canada is a nation held together only by their desire to not be annexed, so they hobbled from crisis to crisis over the past 50 years, only their outward Victorian sense of keeping a stiff upper lip masking how much they really can’t stand each other. The only good thing about Trudeau (I) is that he harnessed their collective hatred of us and turned it into a Canadian nationalism that mirrored his obnoxiousness and immaturity, but kept that place from dissolving 40 years ago.

His kid is no where near able to do much more than be a p*ick and may actually lead to that nation’s demise if left unchecked.


10 posted on 10/21/2015 8:11:02 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Gay State Conservative
I have hypertension so I haven't thought about the election results much, I am trying to concentrate on the positives.

RCAF is coming home from Kuwait, that's good.

F-35 purchase will be cancelled, that's good.

When I think about something else, I'll let you know. I can't get the sound of Putin's laughter as he reads this kid's dossier out of my head.

11 posted on 10/21/2015 8:19:44 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: refermech
The best looking guy always wins?

Pretty much, started with JFK.

12 posted on 10/21/2015 8:21:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

He made Obama look bad but being more Dove-ish than Baraq “I have a Nobel Peace Prize” Obama.


13 posted on 10/21/2015 8:21:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: butlerweave

It’s his Party now, the Liberals were dead in the water a few years ago before the famous name took over. They’ll do whatever he wants.


14 posted on 10/21/2015 8:22:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Just when I thought there was still refuge somewhere in the world, there go Australia and Canada. I fear I will end up on a high mountain redoubt in Idaho.


15 posted on 10/21/2015 8:47:07 AM PDT by Defiant (I wouldn't have to mansplain if it weren't for all those wymidiots.)
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To: Vigilanteman

a few??

Dude, I’m from western NY. Timmy Ho’s all be chased Starbucks out of the area. There’s one on every other street corner.


16 posted on 10/21/2015 8:52:12 AM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Roosevelts, Kennedys, Bushs, Clintons, Bidens, Caseys, Browns, Pauls and now Trudeaus.

Can’t North Americans stop with the dynastic support and give some of the millions of other families a chance?

And honestly, none of the above were ever very good. Lucky, maybe, but not great. Celebrity worshipers in the United States and now Canada... Idiots!


17 posted on 10/21/2015 8:54:35 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: jimjohn
I know . . . and make it a point to drop in anytime business takes me to the Buffalo or Rochester area.

I keep thinking that maybe someday they will make it down to the Pittsburgh neighborhoods. After all, First Niagara Bank did.

18 posted on 10/21/2015 10:48:50 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Yes, my mom has anxiety problems, and she said she couldn’t sleep all night that Trudeau won.


19 posted on 10/21/2015 11:26:21 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: dfwgator

The main way I see it affecting the US, is 3 or 4 years from now you will have thousands of Canadians trying to break into the US (if Donald wins that is).


20 posted on 10/21/2015 11:27:33 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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