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Why Ben Carson's Nazi Analogies Matter
New York Times ^ | 10/20/2015 | Peter Wehner- certified GOPe

Posted on 10/20/2015 8:35:36 AM PDT by John S Mosby

"Like many other political autodidacts, Ben Carson has an odd obsession with Nazi Germany.

On several occasions, the pediatric-neurosurgeon-turned-Republican-presidential-candidate has compared the United States to the Third Reich. Mr. Carson has warned that a Hitler-like figure could rise in America. To understand what is happening in the Obama era, he recommended that people read “Mein Kampf.” And he won’t let go of the myth that the Holocaust would have been “greatly diminished” if Jews in Nazi Germany had been allowed to possess guns.

To declare the United States to be “very much like Nazi Germany” is a special kind of libel, yet Mr. Carson is clearly drawn to it. Part of the explanation may be that people who want to impress sometimes invoke imbecilic historical analogies, with the default one often being Nazi Germany. Some part of the answer has to do with his staggering ignorance when it comes to the unique malevolence of Hitler’s Germany."......

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: democracy; democraticsocialism; nazis; socialism
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Calling Dr. Ben Carson "a political autodidact" as an insult, as opposed to recognizing him as a learned professional with a career in the heart of the neo-socialist system of healthcare and its reform, a genuine tone deaf German socialist/progressive member of the GOPe comments in the rag of choice(with all the news that's MADE to fit their agenda) on Dr. Ben Carson's comments about the similarity of the current US socialist state to National SOCIALIST Worker's Party. The socialist German endpoint was the final solution for Jews, Gypsies, Catholics and any other enemies of the State and the destruction of nearly all of Europe in their ever expanding need for resources to support their socialism. Dr. Carson spoke eloquently about the facts that with greater firearm ownership-- they would have had a better chance of surviving the socialist forcible removable of their property and their lives. And he is correct. Will search for a blog formerly posted on FR from an Austrian survivor of National Socialism-- as an eye witness to history.
1 posted on 10/20/2015 8:35:36 AM PDT by John S Mosby
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To: John S Mosby

Wehner is the GOPe weenie of the decade. He shilled for that ass Romney and is still shilling for Yeb and Rubio. Just say no.


2 posted on 10/20/2015 8:37:58 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: John S Mosby

It could happen here.


3 posted on 10/20/2015 9:01:04 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: John S Mosby

Didn’t something happen in the Warsaw ghetto?


4 posted on 10/20/2015 9:03:39 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: John S Mosby

Let’s see. . . Maybe “it matters” because he’s right?
Oldplayer


5 posted on 10/20/2015 9:04:33 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: John S Mosby

But it’s OK when the Libs say that Conservatives are Nazis.


6 posted on 10/20/2015 9:21:42 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: John S Mosby
Even the worst totalitarians don't start at the mass killing stage...

Totalitarians start at the bottom - disarming citizens, stopping free speech, taking control of heath care and services people are dependent upon, targeting 'enemies of the State' with IRS etc... - and work their way up...

Ben Carson's talking about 'the birthing' of a totalitarian State... he's NOT saying Obama is putting humans in ovens or rounding them up for camps. Carson's saying the stage is being set...in it's typical fashion.

7 posted on 10/20/2015 9:31:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: John S Mosby

In Dr Carson’s defense, the whole Hitler/Nazi chapter is probably one of the most interesting subjects of recent history. It is the single most studied and well documented event in human history. So many lessons to be learned. People who dismiss it either never heard that old adage about having to repeat it, or are too stupid to appreciate its significance.


8 posted on 10/20/2015 9:34:08 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To declare the United States to be “very much like Nazi Germany” is a special kind of libel, yet Mr. Carson The New York Times is clearly drawn to it.
How many times have we seen “America” spelled “Amerika” by American leftists eager to make exactly that implication???

9 posted on 10/20/2015 10:04:47 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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Carson agrees with Solzhenitsyn.


10 posted on 10/20/2015 10:17:31 AM PDT by marron
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To: John S Mosby

Someone I usually agree with posted this article on my Facebook page, basically endorsing this guy’s viewpoint.

I just posted that Germany wasn’t under Hitler until it was.


11 posted on 10/20/2015 10:20:14 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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And he won’t let go of the myth that the Holocaust would have been “greatly diminished” if Jews in Nazi Germany had been allowed to possess guns.

If you have weapons and know a bad guy will kill you unless you fight, YOU WILL FIGHT!

12 posted on 10/20/2015 10:23:19 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: John S Mosby

I had a German friend in my church many years ago. She was a little older than me and had spent several years in a Russian prison camp where, I think, her sister died.

She told me this story. Her family were farmers and well to do. They lived in the country. Her father went to town only occasionally to stock up on needed goods.

One day he went into town and was appalled to see a friend of his, a successful merchant, sweeping the street. He asked his friend, “Herman, what the heck or you doing?” or words to that effect.

The friend did not answer ... just looked down at his broom. In a minute my friend’s father was taken into custody for talking to this man. He spent many hours being questioned and held.

When he came home, he sat at the kitchen table staring into space and wouldn’t tell anyone what was wrong. He was never the same. He eventually told them.

So, no, I don’t dismiss Dr. Carson’s ‘obsession’ with Nazis.


13 posted on 10/20/2015 10:28:56 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: ealgeone

“To declare the United States to be “very much like Nazi Germany” is a special kind of libel…” Strange words from the steno pad that supports America’s chief slanderer.

Carson is right. The Third Reich in all its brutality didn’t happen overnight; it happened with small steps in that direction, while the populace was either asleep and fed free bread or told wonderful tales of a German resurrection. Kind of like the utopia the democrats keep promising, while they continue to enrich themselves and the poor don’t get traction or the dems’ attention. Baby steps, like the kind of violations we accept everyday from TSA at every US airport. Like the constant balkanization of citizens directed from the White House. Like worshipping a war/common criminal running for President. Like the most secretive administration in history claiming otherwise. And so on.

It’s possible. And they NY Times will be part of it.


14 posted on 10/20/2015 10:38:46 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: altura

If you ever have to fight Nazis (under ANY other name) to
the death; you will remember it. My dad was shell shocked
all to Hell during WWII fighting Hitler and his Nazis to
the death (his or theirs; he chose THEIRS). He hated
having to kill the ordinary conscripted German boys who
were forced by Hitler to kill; he also detested the Nazi
officers - but he went, and he did his duty. - The idea of
throwing women & homosexuals into that mess would have
totally flummoxed him. In fact, the few homosexual men who
started basic in his outfit DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH BASIC.
Those MEN had one thing on their minds; get shed of Hitler,
win that war and GET BACK HOME in one piece.


15 posted on 10/20/2015 10:39:33 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: SpaceBar

Or the people who dismiss it... are in agreement with Statist totalitarianism instead of a Constitutional Republic and the Bill of Rights including the 2nd Amendment.


16 posted on 10/20/2015 11:01:38 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: marron

Indeed— the gulag was created by another totalitarian State.


17 posted on 10/20/2015 11:03:12 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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I’ve heard those on the left compare the US to Nazi Germany all the time for decades, and yet the NYT and others haven’t criticized them for it at all.


18 posted on 10/20/2015 11:17:27 AM PDT by euram
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To: altura; Commander X

Here is a link from 2010 FR post by Commander X, from a blog called sodahead the writer being Kitty Werthman, the Austrian survivor. Excellent read from one who was there, and NOT in the camps.... everyday people who would not go with the flow if they could have, and is exactly what Ben Carson is talking about— especially in the medical field, not so much the firearms:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2449983/posts


19 posted on 10/20/2015 11:52:32 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: GOPJ

In all fairness, the French Revolution and Reign of Terror didn’t even bother with the disarming of citizens. If anything, they supplied citizens with guns specifically so they can gear up a mass killing from the start. And I know there were reports of people actually laughing and cheering when a guy was shot with shotguns. You can read all about it here: http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/Archives/Fidelity_archives/parricide.html

And bear in mind, the French Revolution is what ultimately set up the likes of Communism and even Naziism.

But beyond that, yes, Ben Carson is indeed correct, at least regarding the Nazi Germany comparison.


20 posted on 01/06/2017 4:29:17 AM PST by otness_e
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