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I find this small story to be a fascinating study in misguided government regulations. This is my take.

Mandatory minimum wage laws are forcing restaurant owners to find ways to make up the revenue. The solution?
They are hiding the tip in the total cost of the meal, as an "administrative fee". The tips that normally go to the waitstaff are being redistributed to other workers.
The wickedly brilliant part of the left is that once again they have used the guise of social justice to get another tax stream at the expense of working class people. The restaurant owner (Meyer) acts like the change was made in the "spirit of fairness" but really passes the cost on to the customer.

Of course all the lefties will be totally surprised when business is off and restaurants start closing.

1 posted on 10/14/2015 3:46:14 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

There was a story here on FR a year or so back where the magnanimous restaurant owner decided to let customers pay what they could afford, if they elected to pay at all. The establishment closed soon thereafter.

Funny how liberals are continually bitten in the backside by the laws of real economics.


2 posted on 10/14/2015 3:59:22 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

He’s making income more TAXABLE.

Same as the women’s movement: It was all about DIGNITY, right?

Wrong!

It was all about making the unseen income of 50% of the population TAXABLE —mom has to work, get taxed, and then the people she hired to BADLY raise her kids ALSO gets taxed:

A TOOFER..!

Oh, and the kids also get into the school system much ealier, so mm, mm good, Barak Hussein Obama.

THEN women don’t need men, who get incarcerated and go on welfare.

AND the son follows suit, and the daughters also get knocked up and go on benefits, etc.

So rather than a twoofer it’s more like a fifther..?


3 posted on 10/14/2015 3:59:32 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kid Shelleen

Tipping is a brilliant scheme. Customer service is better in restaurants than in any other retail establishments of like caliber. Wait staff know that they will experience immediate consequences of service, good or bad. I always get excellent service in restaurants. Timely, professional and very personable.


4 posted on 10/14/2015 4:00:29 PM PDT by all the best
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To: Kid Shelleen

Redistribute money from the waiters to the chefs. That’s going to guarantee high quality waiters.


5 posted on 10/14/2015 4:02:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Kid Shelleen

6 posted on 10/14/2015 4:04:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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It’s just a way to transfer wealth and ensure equality of outcome.

And that is a path to ensuring equality of input.

Quality of service will slide to the lowest common denominator.

How many waiters will now ask themselves “Why should I hustle? Without tips no matter how hard I work I still only make as much as the goof offs and incompetents?”


7 posted on 10/14/2015 4:04:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Kid Shelleen

well the best waiters and waitresses are really just lucky...they really haven’t”built those skills”...so this does make it fair.


8 posted on 10/14/2015 4:04:47 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Some Animals are more equal than others.)
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The headline is totally bogus. this guy hasn’t banned tipping - he’s done exactly the opposite: he’s made tipping mandatory, and at a rate he’s decided on.

That’s all I’d need to know to make sure I never patronized his establishment.


12 posted on 10/14/2015 4:30:26 PM PDT by Stosh
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.....I think “socialist” Europe and “socialist” New York do indeed have a lot in common and therefore this “socialist” approach at Danny Meyer’s Restaurants might work. It will be interesting to see if it does.

But, in Central Texas, even a few bad or awful service complaints and your out of business. So, I don’t see this Euro/New York idea spreading. And, most folks here would see right through this scheme and not even patronize the place to begin with.


17 posted on 10/14/2015 4:58:41 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Economic experiments can be wicked fun.


18 posted on 10/14/2015 5:15:32 PM PDT by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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So now you’ll also have to pay 9% additional sales tax on the 25% dining cost increase. No sales tax on tips.


19 posted on 10/14/2015 5:32:46 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I’ve dined at Union Square Cafe and Gramercy Tavern.

Love the potato chips at Grammercy.

However, I won’t be eating there until he rights what is a wrong decision.

Here it is:
“”We believe hospitality is a team sport,” he wrote. “Unfortunately, many of our colleagues — our cooks, reservationists, and dishwashers to name a few — aren’t able to share in our guests’ generosity, even though their contributions are just as vital to the outcome of your experience.”””

You asshat. It is the servers who do the suggestive selling that gets you more revenue.

Does the cook or busboy induce me to buy a bottle of Ridge?


25 posted on 10/14/2015 6:26:45 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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If this guy’s restaurants cater to the wealthy (and if his food id good) this will work out - people who don’t worry about cost will pay the extra and probably still tip the wait staff.

For us regular folks, we are already priced out of the higher end restaurants other than for very special occasions, so it won’t matter.


27 posted on 10/14/2015 6:51:18 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Mr. Pink approves.

28 posted on 10/14/2015 6:52:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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That is a hefty increase in prices to the customer. We tip at least 20% when we eat out if the tip goes to the person waiting our table and he or she was not suffering from a failure attitude. I gave one waitress enough money to catch a plane to Ireland for her sister’s wedding when I was somewhat rich. It was fun being kinda rich while it lasted. A rich man gave my sister, when she was a teen, a thousand dollars to get her car fixed when he saw her crying outside. Someone sideswiped her in the parking lot. So he gives her ten one hundred dollar bills and she does not stop crying. He wonders if maybe she needs more and she told him she was still crying because now she was so thankful that someone was so merciful to her.

Since we are not rich anymore, we eat at home, mostly. I can do gourmet cooking. I love to cook; I was just being lazy not to plan meals and shop like I do now. My husband says he has never eaten so well. But...he’s not a neutral judge. However, he has lost a lot of weight because I don’t pile on calories unless needed for a special dish. When he went to restaurants, he never thought about calories in what he ordered. At home, he gets what he gets so he has to eat like I do. He does not understand how he dropped so much weight while eating as much as before and not dieting. So, the moral of the story is not being kinda rich anymore has probably added years to his life.


29 posted on 10/14/2015 7:26:06 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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“Of course all the lefties will be totally surprised when business is off and restaurants start closing. “

Restaurants will increase their fixed costs of keeping the doors open - so they will have to limit their open hours to limit their labor costs. They’ll have to be closed much of the day when business is generally slow.

Restaurants will incur costs to get rid of and replace employees who are no longer incentivized to provide superior service. Your coffee won’t be filled as often, your empty water glass will stay that way.

The best, most personable waitstaff will move on - unable to differentiate themselves financially for being better at their jobs than others.

Food carts will kill restaurants - because the price difference will be much greater - service will be consistent off a food cart.

Building owners will suffer higher vacancy rates - as new restaurants will have higher capital requirements to start up, and existing restaurants that may have been marginally viable under the old system will now be unprofitable.

Banks that loan money to building owners will experience higher default rates on mortgage notes.

Open 24 hours will be a thing of the past.

Buffets, food carts, automated fast food will be the norm, sit-down restaurants will be an occasional extravagance.

Restaurant workers will take home less than they do now - and there will be no upside possibility.

They’ll still put a “tip” line on the bill.


32 posted on 10/15/2015 4:04:41 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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