Isaiah 64:8
Yet you, LORD, are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.
Your argument is there is no difference between a lump of clay and what the potter turns it into.
So I’m arguing with a...theological tautological topologist. I need a drink.
No, we were discussing physics, not theology.
If you want to mix the two up, you’re not going to get any usable results.