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To: roamer_1; LucyT

I was working on my reading skills when I thought about that phrase “grizzly corridor” , which was new to me. Interesting to Google the words “grizzly corridor” and see who comes up.
Looks like some liberal sierra club lookalikes suing the feds for denying ESA protection to yet another supposed subspecies of grizzly.

That’s the way to do it. Tons of wolves? Choose ten and call them a subspecies, and off to court we go.

Methinks miss Lucy may be a leaner to the left on this issue at least.

Hopefully she can raise her own grizzly family in her own backyard, instead of forcing her views on locals.


70 posted on 10/13/2015 6:53:45 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema; LucyT
I was working on my reading skills when I thought about that phrase “grizzly corridor” , which was new to me. Interesting to Google the words “grizzly corridor” and see who comes up. Looks like some liberal sierra club lookalikes suing the feds for denying ESA protection to yet another supposed subspecies of grizzly.

It's just another land grab. You can't hardly piss on the ground here without some government stooge popping up to declare it a protected watershed and an eagle flyway. This is just another means of increasing government authority and decreasing access to the forest - You can still walk in, anywhere you like, but so much of it has been gated off now that you need a week to get anywhere by foot... to places you used to be able to nearly drive right up to.

And it's total bull. Naturally, most traffic in the woods (wildlife or otherwise) tends to follow waterways, which always flow down interconnected valleys. That's how it works. But that is just a matter of ease-of-movement. It's easier to slope along a river or creek. But that doesn't mean a critter CAN'T go over a ridge into the next range - and a lot of times they do. Especially bears and elk. There are no such thing as 'corridors', other than migratory ungulates (and even that is subject to change, according to the grass), and the predators that follow them, overlaid with berry patches and fish migrations. Add in territoriality, and wintering dens... All of that is incredibly complex, and constantly changing.

You can't know the woods unless you are in them all the time. The whole of it breathes and moves. I wound up in a wheelchair for some years, and what I knew of the forest changed so drastically in that decade that I am basically starting from scratch. All my old berry patches are gone. all the clear-cuts I used to hunt are now forest, all my favorite fishing holes are changed, and all the places I used to go for firewood are picked clean... It ain't that there ain't anymore berries, hunting. fishing and firewood... It's just that it's all someplace else, and I have to go find it.

To establish a 'corridor' is absurd. Ten years from now it'll all be different, I guarantee, unless the intention is to control a choke point that shuts off vast systems beyond, which is exactly what these things are designed to do.

Tons of wolves? Choose ten and call them a subspecies, and off to court we go.

VERY true - but here (wrt wolves) it is just the other way around - We've always had Timber wolves here - Elusive, lean in the body, long in the leg, tending to small family packs... I hollered when they started hauling in McKenzie River wolves, I really did, for the sake of the native wolf that these marauders would displace. It wasn't until after these newly introduced greys had burgeoned that the 'science' caught up with what the natives knew all along - that these new wolves are very different from the native Timber wolf that belongs here.

The Northern Rocky Mountain Wolf Recovery Plan was first approved in 1980, though it was then revised later on in 1987. The plan required a certain population of Northern Rocky Mountains wolves to reside in the area inside and around Yellowstone, which included at least ten breeding pairs, and for the population to remain stable for at least three consecutive years.[15][16] However, the Northern Rocky Mountains wolf was not, at the time of the initial drafting, recognized as a legitimate subspecies, so the wolves involved in the plan were instead the Great Plains wolf and the Mackenzie Valley wolf

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It still isn't settled all the way. But the timber wolf I know is sure to be irrevocably changed. And the elk and deer that the timber wolf lived in balance with for all these years are now being decimated. It is horrible. Tragic.

And that is the problem when people a thousand miles away think they know better than the locals do. Their sophistry, after all, is 'for our own good', and makes them feeeeel better about their own 'superiority' in comparison to those dumb hicks that actually live in the place. In the mean time the idiocy they impose is almost always horribly destructive. I've seen it over, and over, and over again.

Thx for your reply.

73 posted on 10/14/2015 10:23:03 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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