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The photos of the young crew members are especially sad to me as they show them in their maritime academy uniforms and my son went through Cal Maritime. He sailed on the sister ship,the Greatland, of El Faro, which used to be the Northland, on the Oakland to Hawaii run.

Does any one know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours? - Gordon Lightfoot

1 posted on 10/04/2015 7:31:32 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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Prayers for all aboard as well as their families.
2 posted on 10/04/2015 7:37:16 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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Was Ray Nagin the captain, by any chance?


3 posted on 10/04/2015 7:38:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Because if the ship hadn’t lost its engines the storm wouldn’t have been a problem.


4 posted on 10/04/2015 7:38:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Coast Guard holding a press conference tomorrow at 10 AM eastern time.


5 posted on 10/04/2015 7:38:28 PM PDT by wrench
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Why are they linking this to the Bermuda triangle? Hmm...was it a paranormal anomaly, or a big hurricane...?


6 posted on 10/04/2015 7:38:45 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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It looks sad... and bad. The course shown in the article was set directly into the storm’s path.


7 posted on 10/04/2015 7:39:45 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Weird the news I forgot whether it was CNN stated that it traveled where near the area of the Bermuda Triangle is.


8 posted on 10/04/2015 7:39:56 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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there are known ways to try to (try to) out run hurricanes in sail boats. depending on where you are in relation to it. fastest point of sail in a modern sloop rig is beam reach. just rethinking this at the north of it you are heading east and south. south of it east and north. mostly east as any wind can carry you.


9 posted on 10/04/2015 7:41:36 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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First I herd this story I thought the same thing the wife did.


22 posted on 10/04/2015 8:04:19 PM PDT by the_daug
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You tube song of Gordon Lightfoot: the wreck of Edmond Fitsgerald.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A


23 posted on 10/04/2015 8:04:50 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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Years ago, Charles Berlitz wrote a book on ships and planes lost in the Bermuda Triangle. This was reproduced in the NATIONAL ENQUIRER and one day when I had nothing to do I pinpointed all the ships and planes lost.

Only about five were lost in the Triangle. All the others were well outside.
Berlitz even tried to claim that Coach Robert E Rein of Louisiana State had his plane drawn into the “Triangle” by unknown forces.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1988&dat=19800111&id=hW0iAAAAIBAJ&sjid=r6wFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5532,979842&hl=en


25 posted on 10/04/2015 8:05:16 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259040/Family-members-crew-board-El-Faro-demand-know-vessel-set-sail-Hurricane-Joaquin.html


27 posted on 10/04/2015 8:08:15 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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My assumption is that they were hoping to get through it the quickest by going in the opposite path of the hurricane along its edge so it passes by them with minimum of trouble.


28 posted on 10/04/2015 8:09:31 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Was Dexter at the helm?


31 posted on 10/04/2015 8:26:53 PM PDT by GingisK
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Me thinks the ship’s owners wanted an insurance payout for a shiny new cargo ship. Gotta get the ship sunk first, with little evidence revealing the plot.


33 posted on 10/04/2015 8:28:26 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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I can say as an eyewitness to the fact that everytime (6X) we sailed (Navy ship) through the Bermuda triangle that our steering would just flat stop working and our gyrocompass would just spin in circles. Definately something going on out there.


34 posted on 10/04/2015 8:31:12 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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My father, a graduate of the Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point and a former Merchant Marine navigator and deck officer, wonders why they did not head south along the Florida coast immediately after leaving Jacksonville. That would have better assured the safety of the ship and crew.


37 posted on 10/04/2015 8:37:07 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Easy to see how the container ship could go under with no power in a Cat 4.

I served on CVA-42 (FDR) in early ‘60s. We were in home port at Mayport FL when hurricane Donna headed our way. We had to go to sea, as the winds and tides would have damaged the ship and the docks.

We went right through the hurricane with our skeleton crew. Many were ashore when the decision was made and, of course, the squadrons were at NAS JAX.

My berthing compartment was just below the flight deck, so about 50’ above water level. Lots of motion, so we had to use lines to tie ourselves onto the canvas and thin mattress racks we slept on. ....Mess hall only served crackers, water and black coffee because of sea sickness due to motion.

After we were through the hurricane, we found forward officers’ quarters with about 2’ of water. Railings along catwalks beside the flight deck were bent up over the catwalks from the force of the waves hitting more than 60’ above the water.

We remained at sea for a couple of days before returning to Mayport for a lot of repairs and maintenance.


42 posted on 10/04/2015 8:44:11 PM PDT by octex
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I’m a frequent viewer of Deadliest Catch. Those boats occassionally get hit with storms that are near hurricane in wind speed....and those boats are much smaller than a container ship. I wouldn’t be surprised if running right through bad weather was fairly routine on thise big ships.


43 posted on 10/04/2015 8:46:42 PM PDT by lacrew
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The article references the Bermuda Triangle? Really? They sailed straight into a cat 4 hurricane, presumably at the company's direction. How about investing the company?
61 posted on 10/05/2015 5:42:38 PM PDT by Vision (Why does everyone pretend that Obama is mentally well?)
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