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Scott Walker, The GOP And The Fool’s Gold In Iowa
Townhall.com ^ | September 24, 2015 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 09/24/2015 6:43:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Walker was just a poor candidate to start with. His regional record and lack of charisma did not translate to the national stage. In addition he simply appeared to have no core beliefs.


21 posted on 09/24/2015 7:49:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Carry_Okie
Empty promises. Anybody with functioning brain cells knows that building said wall starts with "introduce a bill," with the next step beating a string of MALDeF or Sierra Club lawsuits as soon as the President's ink is dry.

Wrong. The fence was authorized and funded back in 2006 and is still on the books. Just nobody has wanted to build it. As for the lawsuits, Trump can issue an Executive Order declaring it a national security emergency and just do it. And I believe he would.

As for someone dropping that on him, you think it hasn't been already? I've heard interviewers make that point, and his response is "Believe me, I'll get it built." The biggest half of leadership is having the will to use the power you have.

22 posted on 09/24/2015 7:50:28 AM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a fire"arm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: LS

Well reasoned argument, but I do have one quibble with your salient point:

If we are to demand that our candidates “DO” something, Trump is in trouble. Why? Because the things that Trump has done are the antithesis of what we want for a President. He’s spoken about a need for more gun regulation, he’s used eminent domain improperly, he’s supported the Clintons, he’s used H1B visas to bring in foreign workers. The thing we like about Trump is his laser like focus on immigration. However, that is just talk right now.

So, if our demand is for candidates to DO something, I do not believe that any will meet our criteria.


23 posted on 09/24/2015 7:55:46 AM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: Hugin
Wrong. The fence was authorized and funded back in 2006 and is still on the books.

Wrong. It has been stopped by the courts. It is effectively no longer on the books, nor was what was authorized complete.

As for the lawsuits, Trump can issue an Executive Order declaring it a national security emergency and just do it. And I believe he would.

Not within his powers, unless you want to develop dictatorship in this country. Is that your goal?

As for someone dropping that on him, you think it hasn't been already?

Quote it.

The biggest half of leadership is having the will to use the power you have.

Under divided government, the biggest part of leadership is knowing how to get it done under the rule of law. Abuse of "emergency powers" (we've been under emergency powers since 1933) is the first step to absolute tyranny. I cringe at the thought of Democrats in power after your boy has pulled stunts like that.

24 posted on 09/24/2015 8:09:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Carry_Okie
That's a brilliant idea.

Trump could put on his Commander-in-Chief hat, order the wall built by the Seabees and Corps of Engineers as a military operation under the supervision of SecDef. Detach MPs and Marines from nearby installations for patrol and garrison. Gird and cover it with razor tape, trenches, mines, and machine guns with clear interlocking fields of fire, and man it up like the 38th Parallel in Korea.

25 posted on 09/24/2015 8:11:55 AM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: 60Gunner
Trump could put on his Commander-in-Chief hat, order the wall built by the Seabees and Corps of Engineers as a military operation under the supervision of SecDef.

Uh, pursuant to what declaration of war? The courts have stopped such military operations before. No, the best step is to take the jurisdiction over border enforcement out of the hands of the Federal courts. Hell, put the jurisdiction over ALL aliens outside the Federal courts and set up a second set of courts for handling deportations. It still takes Congress to get it done.

26 posted on 09/24/2015 8:16:18 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: 60Gunner

BTW, I’d use detained illegals to build the fence. There’s a certain justice in it.


27 posted on 09/24/2015 8:17:39 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Kaslin

What I’d like to see the Governor do is this:

How about traveling around the country to other RED states, and show them how to defeat the UNIONS ..??

He could give them a boiler-plate plan to help relieve their states from the burden of union pressures.

I think it would be a great success .. and help him later on if he decides to run for President again.


28 posted on 09/24/2015 8:19:44 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: 60Gunner

A tiny issue of Posse Comitatus Act...


29 posted on 09/24/2015 8:24:02 AM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: Hugin
HERE is a reference to the fascist emergency powers we've been under since 1933, how they were enacted, and by whom.

I prefer the Constitution, thank you.

30 posted on 09/24/2015 8:26:02 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: brothers4thID
Well, one of Trump's main gun planks is much GREATER concealed-carry freedom. His "gun regulations" are to enforce existing laws.

His immigration plan would be precisely what I want in a president.

What he would do on the positive side would far outweigh anything negative. But standing still, which is what virtually everyone else offers, is just not an option. Nation won't be here in four more years.

31 posted on 09/24/2015 8:26:57 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: goodnesswins

Actually, though, there are ways to get legislation done. LBJ was a master. Trust me, there are deals to be made that will advance ANY agenda . . . if you are willing to pay the price. Some of my ideas would involve steep prices at the outset, but in the short run get our agenda advanced and in the long run pay off huge.


32 posted on 09/24/2015 8:28:10 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
His "gun regulations" are to enforce existing laws.

Including the Gun Control Act of 1968? No thank you.

33 posted on 09/24/2015 8:30:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Carry_Okie
Sorry, you are badly misinformed. The "Wall" bill has already been introduced, passed, and approved, and even largely funded. It just hasn't been built due to no executive willing to do so.

And it's laughable how "they're gonna GET Trump in the next debate." Someone will "drop these" on Trump.

A great example of how a chief executive makes a constitutional end run around congress is the Panama Canal. Read the history of how that was done, how congress's own commission didn't accomplish anything, and how TR singlehandedly got the whole project working.

34 posted on 09/24/2015 8:31:22 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Carry_Okie

yep, gonna be sooooooo much better with one of the other duds. Oh, yeah, btw, Cruz cannot get above 8% so don’t put him in the mix.


35 posted on 09/24/2015 8:33:33 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Yes but the question was “what has he DONE” and I was pointing out that such a meter, when applied to all, leaves Trump behind the pack.


36 posted on 09/24/2015 8:37:27 AM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: LS
Sorry, you are badly misinformed. The "Wall" bill has already been introduced, passed, and approved, and even largely funded. It just hasn't been built due to no executive willing to do so.

Sorry, you are badly misinformed. It was only 700 miles, and you knew it. It stopped in the courts pursuant to environmental treaties.

The Secure Fence Act, signed by President George W. Bush in 2006, promised 700 miles (1,126 kilometers) of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border; however, lawsuits and protests from citizen groups halted construction. The Sierra Club and Defenders of Wildlife filed a lawsuit challenging the ability of the Bush administration to waive important environmental regulations in order to build the wall on the San Pedro Riparian National Conservation Area in Arizona. These regulations include the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. In October 2007, a U.S. district court sided with the organizations and stopped construction. SourceA great example of how a chief executive makes a constitutional end run around congress is the Panama Canal. Read the history of how that was done, how congress's own commission didn't accomplish anything, and how TR singlehandedly got the whole project working.

I take it you admire dictatorship and benevolent despotism. I prefer the Constitution.

37 posted on 09/24/2015 8:39:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: LS
Oh, yeah, btw, Cruz cannot get above 8% so don’t put him in the mix.

Because the media give the free air time to Trump. He's their boy, all 'doth protesteth too much' to the contrary.

38 posted on 09/24/2015 8:40:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Carry_Okie

Oh, now it’s the media’s fault. Never can be the candidate’s fault.


39 posted on 09/24/2015 9:04:03 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Carry_Okie
I like leaders who get things done. Trump would not stand by when "lawsuits and protests" stopped a national security issue.

But, have fun. I know I will with Pres. Trump.

40 posted on 09/24/2015 9:05:07 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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