Posted on 09/21/2015 3:53:22 AM PDT by nuconvert
If we can’t do anything else, I want to see these bastards be forced to live with CommieCare in exactly the same way the rest of the taxpayers do.
Term Limits;
One Term in Office,
TWO Terms in Jail!!
Just slow down on electing lawyers, that would help.
1) Are we not a nation Equal under the Law? (on paper, yes). Much like the rest of the Constitution, if one is not following/adhering...what matters another Law to disregard?
2) Completely agree. No donations of time, $$, property, etc. from ANY entity that cannot pull the lever at voting time.
3) See #1
4) See #1
5) See #1. Remove ALL perks, pensions, etc. (aside from their ‘pay’). Nobody in D.C. should get PERMANENT/LIFETIME monies from the Treasury for the work of the Nation they (may) do; it should be a privledge and/or taxing to give ones life/time for D.C., not the other way around.
I would add 6) Some kind of 5-10yr. window where D.C. cannot go from office to lobby/k-st/think-tank to again meddle with the our Freedoms and Liberty.
The root issue, IMO, is voter apathy.
Much like parents re: their children: MY child (Rep., Senator, dog-catcher, etc.) is GREAT/an angel...but YOURS sucks.
How else does one attribute 95%+ re-election rate??
For Cantor that would mean another 20 years. We needed to remove him last year before he betrayed us on amnesty.
How could it be 20 yrs if there were term limits? There needs to be both: term limits, age limit
“Vote them out instead “
Why instead and not both?
Term limits have not solved the problem in California.
I used to think they were a solution. I do not anymore.
We need more effective ways of limiting government power.
If term limits are enacted power will default to the staffers and bureaucrats who work for the elected officials unless something is done about that too.
“If term limits are enacted power will default to the staffers and bureaucrats who work for the elected officials “
Why would that happen?
Donald Trump characteristically won't address the issue, telling CBS's Face the Nation: "The biggest reform is to get competent people in office. I mean that's to me the biggest reform we could make."IOW, Trump nails it. Newt pretended to support term limits with the Contract with America, but characteristically, he didn't deliver.
If it backfires it will be because people come to Washington realizing “I only have eight years to stuff my pockets, so let’s start maximizing all efforts in that regard.”
Yes, agreed. That too.
What's sad is that there's 25% who don't believe it.
If voters were always wise, and never voted against their own interests or the country’s interests, then you would be correct. The framers understood that you couldn’t and shouldn’t rely on people to always be virtuous or wise, otherwise, why even bother to have divided government in the first place? The three branches of government were just an attempt to limit the consolidation of power and to provide checks and balances to overreach. Term limits was a check on power that they overlooked.
1. Bush
2. Clinton
The office of the President of the United States is the only one that is subject to term limits under the U.S. Constitution. Here we are in 2015, in a nation of more than 300 million people, and the political powers and their media propagandists have come up with two @ssholes from these two families as the frontrunners in next year's election campaign.
I rest my case.
“Why would that happen?”
Briefly:
Each Congress critter and each Congressional Committee has a staff to help do the job. They will be the ones who know how to get things done as opposed to a newly elected person.
The newly elected will want people who know how the system works, how to get things done within the system, so will hire experienced people, either those who worked for a predecessor or those who worked for someone else. These people will have influence, for good or bad, with the elected.
A staffer may have, say 20 years experience compared to the 0 of the newly elected. The newly elected will depend on these people till they figure out which way is up and by that time they may have hit the term limit. Of course that will be less of a problem in the Senate than in the House.
I believe that in the nature of things, overtime, power will accrue to the experienced people, that is to the staffers, unless they are term limited too.
Term limits are NO MAGIC BULLIT. The corruption will just happen faster. We have presidential term limits, how is that working?
Your age limit would have kept RR out...........................
So tell me, what is the real problem and can it be solved.
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