Wrong, as in my case i am only showing how what the Lord taught could easily take place, which would providing additional revelation, which He and Scripture often did, while in your case you have Christ teaching science fiction, which He NEVER did in any of His 45 parables.
And you accuse me of reading into passages? Wow!
Postulating how one could have eyes and a tongue to see and hear since the Lord said he did, is a perfectly reasonable theory, in contrast to asserting the rich man was a a selfish proud irreverent dictator walking in continued disobedience, because he pleaded for just one drop of water, and for his brethren to be brought to repentance and saved from the same torment he was in, and call Abraham "father." Talk about compelled absurdity!
[[That God will “create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind,” (Isaiah 65:17) does not speak to that, but perhaps you can make it to. ]]
Nah- I’ll let Your making it say the dead can speak to those in heave speak for itself
Which is just what Christ described, while Isaiah 65:17 simply does not teach dead People are forbidden from speaking to either the l living or Those in Heaven. Ignorance, carelessness or desperation. Take your pick.
Like I said- you posts are far too long now- After reading just the first few paragraphs it’s clear you are on very shaky ground theologically
Meaning you are engaging in soliloquy.
[[Wrong, as in my case i am only showing how what the Lord taught could easily take place,]]
Sorry- but your continual premise is that this has to be a real event because Christ would never use fiction or something false to convey a story or parable-
But we see Christ saying things that are NOT true in his parables- such as the mustard seed- the mustard seed is NOT the smallest seed around nor does the mustard tree grow to be the largest as suggested by the parable-
[[Sound just like what a cult would teach.]]
Hmm, Christ clearly taught something about mustard seeds which wasn’t true- Does that make- He made a fictitious statement about mustard seeds- He, being God, obviously knew what He said wasn’t true- so did He engage In deception in this parable? He ‘never sued deception before- so by your rules, He can’t possibly be using deception here I nthe mustard seed analogy, yet the fact is He did-
[[while in your case you have Christ teaching science fiction, which He NEVER did in any of His 45 parables.]]
He never had occasion to before- yet in this case He DID have a reason for doing so- a VERY specific reason- as explained over and over again- but which you of course deny- knowing more than scholars who study the issue apparently-
[[Talk about compelled absurdity! ]]
Keep it civil Daniel or I’m done with you- There’s no need for petty insults-
The whole parable is full of figurative symbolism that is not true- and statements like Abraham was far off, yet the man In hell is able to speak to him? Did he have a supernaturally loud voice? Did He have super vision to be able to recognize both Abraham and Lazarus?
Was the rich man supernaturally strong where hellfire wouldn’t reduce him to a squirming incomprehensible ball? Or was this sheol not really hot enough to cause pain so intense one can not talk? (Ever passed a kidney stone? The pain is so bad that it reduces you to incomprehensible babble- literally- Apparently Hell will be less punishment than a kidney stone?
Was Abraham’s bosom and sheol so close people could converse back and forth? If so you have to make the case that Abraham;s bosom was on earth because sheol is in the earth- Where is Abraham’s bosom exactly?
Did you know that ‘eating the crumbs’ was a Jewish term for describing Gentiles? Laying at the gate was also ? Lazarus represents Gentiles, something the Pharisees would have vehemently opposed as being allowed into heaven because they did NOT follow the Jewish laws-
This whole parable is steeped in Jewish customs, sayings, and erroneous teachings for the purpose of using he Pharisees own false teaching against them- they would have been appalled that gentiles were beign depicted in Abraham’s bosom- the Pharisees fictional ‘heaven’