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To: okie01; wbarmy
There are parts of Texas that are not on the Texas grid. The sliver of east Texas adjacent to Louisiana you mention is one. It is part of the eastern grid and the Southwest Power Pool(SPP). Likewise there are parts of the panhandle that are also on the eastern grid/SPP. Likewise there are parts of the panhandle and west Texas that are on the western grid.

Power plants located on the adjacent grids(such as the one you mention in east Texas) are allowed to supply power to the Texas grid if they are dedicated to the Texas grid. But plants located within the Texas grid and dedicated to the Texas grid cannot export power to the adjacent grids.

There has long been emergency connections between the Texas grid and the eastern, western, and Mexican grids.

A few years ago FERC ruled that the Texas grid could supply commercial power to the Mexican grid if none of that power could find its way onto the western grid and a commercial connection was established.

FERC has also ruled that Texas power could be exported to the eastern and western grid if that power is DC, but no DC transmission lines have been built. The planned Tres Amigas project and the four Clean Lines Energy Partners projects are DC.

All of these DC lines are to carry wind power generated in New Mexico, the panhandle, western OK, and SW Kansas eastward and westward.

Wind power in Texas began in 1997 when Enron bought Zond Corp and Texas established renewable standards in 1999. When Enron went under the Zond holdings were sold to GE.

It was the natural gas shortages in 2000/2001 and after Katrina that set off windmill building in Texas. Everyone remembers how Enron was screwing CA on natural gas. All that ended the political career of Guv Gray Davis in CA and Texas Sen Phil Gramm, who was replaced by John Cornyn

In 2005, the state lege would authorize the Texas CREZ Project with new windlines. In 2009 the Texas PUC would contract to build the new windlines, which were completed in 2014.

When the economy collapsed in 2008, the price of natural gas collapsed and hasn't recovered. Cheap natural gas is detrimental to windmills so the renewable energy tax credit is critical to windmills. Everybody in Congress is talking about Planned Parenthood in the budget negotiations underway, but none of them are talking about tax credits.

They will probably pass a budget extension next week then come back after the election, and the public is focused on Christmas, and pass the 2016 budget bill. With lots of goodies and pork.

16 posted on 09/19/2015 4:46:54 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
FERC has also ruled that Texas power could be exported to the eastern and western grid if that power is DC, but no DC transmission lines have been built. The planned Tres Amigas project and the four Clean Lines Energy Partners projects are DC.

The North Tie and the East Tie are DC connections, Rectifiers and Inverters on either side of the border so that all power transfers are DC.

More info at:
http://www.ercot.com/mktrules/guides/procedures/ERCOT%20DC%20Tie%20Operations%20V3Rev8.doc

28 posted on 09/19/2015 6:23:27 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Ben Ficklin

DC interconnects between domains:

http://www.ercot.com/mktrules/guides/procedures/ERCOT%20DC%20Tie%20Operations%20V3Rev8.doc


35 posted on 09/19/2015 8:04:23 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ben Ficklin
Thanks or all the good info.

As I recall there was an instance of Central & Southwest -- an Oklahoma generator -- building a plant in Texas, out around Vernon.

They then strung a DC line over the Red River to connect with their own grid in Oklahoma.

The Texas power producers then sent a crew up to the Red and took the DC connection down -- because, if it remained in place, the Texas electricity market would have been subject to federal regulation. And, at the time, it was not.

36 posted on 09/19/2015 8:56:07 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Ben Ficklin

There’s a big brackish water desalination plant in el paso. the largest such plant in the USA.

Its a shame they’re not a part of the texas grid. they could get electricity at prices that would chop their desalination costs by a third and make fresh water cheap enough for high end agriculture.


43 posted on 09/21/2015 5:20:35 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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