Posted on 09/16/2015 8:45:38 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom
No first-hand account of such training says it was restricted to the specifics of a company.
But if it is such bad business to hire H1-Bs in the current system, their employers presumably will pay the cost of that.
They will - with significant collateral damage to the American middle class in the meantime.
If you're going to have any cancer, prostate cancer may be the best one to have - but having none is better still.
Obviously, the employers think that with that on-the-job training they can do the job the employers want them to do—so I really don’t see your argument at all.
I actually agree with you for now, and maybe up to about a decade out. One legitimate concern with Indian immigrants is how Leftist they are in their politics.
We are at war with the government-corporation complex, or easier said Fascism.
They will - with significant collateral damage to the American middle class in the meantime.
Obviously, the employers think that with that on-the-job training they can do the job the employers want them to do
The bulk of the evidence seems to be that these employers are short-sightedly cutting costs at the longer-term expense of quality and productivity; by the time those longer term consequences are seen, the American middle class will have suffered.
I would say that if tech companies can’t stay in business using domestic labor and at domestic prices then they need to go out of business.
So you’d be okay if our tech sector shrank by, say, 30% Putting hundreds of thousands of your fellow Americans out of jobs?
Because you’re setting it up for foreign companies to come in with a big advantage.
You mean, like H-1B is doing right now?
Ok Company 3 is in trouble, they are losing market share and they start to lose money. They go out of business. Company 1 and 2 gain 3's market share plus there are now 100 more IT persons to employ which pushes down wages WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE FOREIGN IMPORTS. This is your cost reduction mechanism.
So I believe in creative destruction.
Actually, more correct would be to say “a couple million” and “more of your fellow Americans”.
Fortunately, your peculiar version of economics is not mine at all.
You never addressed my question of foreign companies. Because they are the ones who would fill the void—unless you pull up the draw bridge and go for complete economic isolation—which would be a disaster.
I can personally attest that is happening in my company. I can also attest that management deliberately blinds itself to the problems the outsourcing is causing.
We need to tariff imports.
Before gloBULLism, pre 1970 trade was insignificant. When was America at her greatest economically? before 1970 or after?
We’re wealthier by quite a bit post-1970, as opposed to pre-1970.
Yeah, because it's, like, broken?
Now where have I heard that before?
I remember - from George W. Bush, Karl Rove, John McCain, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, Chris Christie, John Kasich, Newt Gingrich, and, well, just about every other nationally known GOP “leader” in the last 20 years.
Just two options?
I can think of one more:
Massive R&D investments in labor saving software and robotics.
Today, we import 1 million new, legal, low skill immigrants each year.
And we import at least another 1 million “guest workers” each year.
That’s a recipe for economic disaster, and, permanent political majorities for the Democrat Party.
Whose massive investment?
Do you not think that is not already being made? Actually, the Indian outsourcers are investing in that most heavily, because their entire business model has been based on low cost labor—when that labor’s cost has been rising rapidly due to demand.
Are you suggesting a government investment boondoggle in, of all places, the sector that least needs such help?
bttt
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