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Something in the ocean is eating great white sharks
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Posted on 09/13/2015 6:54:47 AM PDT by 11th_VA

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To: fso301

Orcas are known to prey on seals, sea lions, fish, otters, and other whales, including young right and grey whales.

They have also been recorded attacking great whites.

Why would you contradict what is widely known without doing a modicum of research on the topic?


141 posted on 09/13/2015 11:14:08 AM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Finny
if they assume the temperature “change” was because of mammalian body heat,

My guess is the "warmer" temperature was due in part to activity of gut bacteria inside the predator shark

142 posted on 09/13/2015 11:16:07 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Don W; fso301

Because a dive of 2,000 feet for an Orca contradicts what is widely known about Orcas, as discovered with a modicum of research?


143 posted on 09/13/2015 11:18:35 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Don W
Why would you contradict what is widely known without doing a modicum of research on the topic?

Because I wasn't trying to post a thesis on the subject.

Whatever ate the tagged shark was in all probability not a killer whale.

144 posted on 09/13/2015 11:20:34 AM PDT by fso301
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To: 11th_VA; All
"Something in the ocean
is eating great white sharks...."


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145 posted on 09/13/2015 11:23:37 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: fso301

Could be that, as well, but you’d think the researchers would be able to determine that. That a first attacking shark snagged the sensor and immediately dove deep, it could happen, but I have a harder time thinking that from one shark to another shark would cause mammalian-like temperature change that quickly. My dad spent most of his life fishing the open deep sea. He always said the ocean is loaded with critters nobody’s discovered yet. {^) And he was serious, and I believe him.


146 posted on 09/13/2015 11:26:04 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: waud

Bingo. My thoughts. Orca kills it or bites off part with the sensor in it- it gets picked up by another opportunist and taken 2K down.


147 posted on 09/13/2015 11:30:02 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PATRIOT1876

(Ping to #145 !!)


148 posted on 09/13/2015 11:35:40 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Finny
Could be that, as well, but you’d think the researchers would be able to determine that. That a first attacking shark snagged the sensor and immediately dove deep, it could happen, but I have a harder time thinking that from one shark to another shark would cause mammalian-like temperature change that quickly.

I don't know what gut temperatures are like in shark, or large sea mammals but a large sperm whale is about the only thing I could imagine capable of rapidly descending 2000 feet with an intact shark locked in its jaws.

If it was a mammal of any sort, it would have to surface regularly to breath while digesting its meal. The tag would record the regular depth changes. The article give no indication that the tag regularly surfaced while inside whatever ate that part of the tagged shark.

149 posted on 09/13/2015 11:38:22 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Finny

Okay, maybe not an orca, but a sperm whale could take on a white shark, and they dive to that depth several times a day.


150 posted on 09/13/2015 11:41:43 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: fso301

If it had the intact shark locked in it’s jaws, the temp would have read the same as the shark’s temp without the rapid increase.


151 posted on 09/13/2015 11:42:35 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: ETL

What tooth?


152 posted on 09/13/2015 12:57:38 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: ETL

what tooth?


153 posted on 09/13/2015 1:07:35 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: PATRIOT1876

FINALLY someone had the same thought.


154 posted on 09/13/2015 1:20:24 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: JoeProBono; All

Killer Whale Vs Great White - Full Length Nature Documentary
Orca Kills Shark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sudPwDgDuH0

Thanks for the full length (48 min) documentary on the topic.

It's a Nat Geo (Nature Untamed) special titled: "The Whale That Ate Jaws"

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"Off the coast of San Francisco, an unexpected killing challenged the great white shark's supremacy as the ultimate predator when one became prey to a killer whale.

Whale-watchers witnessed a stunning act of nature as a killer whale rose to the water's surface with a great white in its mouth and held it there for 15 minutes.

Even more amazing, biologist Peter Pyle was nearby and able to get underwater footage of two whales feeding on the shark. They ate the liver and then departed the scene, leaving the rest to the birds.

The incident raised questions, such as how did the killer whale take the huge shark without a struggle? And why did the whales only eat the shark's liver?"

155 posted on 09/13/2015 1:25:05 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

The liver is the fattiest organ in the shark. Perhaps they ram it, stunning it, and by holding it (sharks have to keep moving to live) suffocates it.


156 posted on 09/13/2015 1:31:39 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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157 posted on 09/13/2015 1:43:50 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Here’s a much better quality version of the same Nat Geo special:

National Geographic: The Whale That Ate Jaws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh6p0JCobKg

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158 posted on 09/13/2015 1:55:25 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Finny

When I was a youngster my dad brought me a sperm whale tooth from Iceland. The first school library book I ever read then was about that same animal type.

Since an old bull sperm whale can get to 60’ long and 50 tons and can dive to over 5000’ deep that kind of critter would be my first guess for the killer. I doubt a hungry sperm whale would pass up a nice juicy great white.

Swallowing a probe ought to raise it’s temp a bit.


159 posted on 09/13/2015 1:56:18 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Sirius Lee; fso301
Yes, I just did a little digging and it could have been a sperm whale, though apparently they mostly eat squid.

Who knows! What happens at sea ... stays at sea.

160 posted on 09/13/2015 1:56:37 PM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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