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Four Virginia Beach officers fired 30 rounds in 7-Eleven shootout
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | September 9, 2015 | Katherine Hafner

Posted on 09/09/2015 5:30:31 AM PDT by csvset

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To: Starstruck
But there is never any need for a civilian to have more than 6 rounds in a magazine, I have heard.

Law enforcement officers are allowed to "Spray and Pray" while the rest of us measly citizens are held to a higher standard and have to aim.

61 posted on 09/09/2015 7:57:27 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: csvset
Hands off my jerky, Turkey!



62 posted on 09/09/2015 8:12:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Reno89519

Did you read the article? With all the media coverage of bad cops these days, you think four cops were just “stalking” this guy for no good reason? You know, they do have to follow leads from other crimes, right?

Also, do you think someone who has just shot four rounds at cops should have a gentle reminder before the cops return fire? One of the bullets went through the sleeve of an officer! How close do you want the initial shooter to get before they return fire?

I also read this in the original article:
***Police said Tuesday they recovered a 9 mm handgun that was used to fire at officers and a Tec-9 semi-automatic weapon that was in a bag at Perry’s feet. Both were loaded.***

I’m quite sure Perry had nothing but good intentions carrying two loaded weapons with him. /sarc


63 posted on 09/09/2015 8:32:14 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: hoosierham

“This is the kind of police action that gives ammunition to the blacks who call for murdering police.”

There is no “ammunition” for anyone to murder police. The “I was afraid for my life” excuse is wearing pretty damned thin these days, unless you’re an anarchist or a murderer to begin with.


64 posted on 09/09/2015 8:37:51 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: csvset

I wouldn’t expect cops to divulge such information in every murder case . It sounds to me like they were still investigating the earlier crime.


65 posted on 09/09/2015 8:39:26 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Starstruck

“But there is never any need for a civilian to have more than 6 rounds in a magazine, I have heard.”

Yeah, these cops had double-stack 9mm’s most likely, 15 rounds a piece.


66 posted on 09/09/2015 8:46:29 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: equaviator

Odd,that is precisely the excuse used by many police when they shoot dogs in the dogs’ own home or yard,kids with toy guns,men reaching for a wallet,pulling up their pants,answering the door,etc.

Police should be easily identifiable as such when making an arrest.

I want to know YOUR reaction when suddenly confronted by several strange persons in dark clothing.


67 posted on 09/09/2015 8:56:19 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: csvset
Officers from a special operations unit …

Stop! I found your problem. Warrior wannabes playing Special Ops.

Exhibit 1: A nomex flight suit on a street cop?

 

C’mon.

68 posted on 09/09/2015 9:01:32 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (ANYBODY who would choose Trump over Cruz has a screw loose.)
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To: hoosierham
I want to know YOUR reaction when suddenly confronted by several strange persons in dark clothing.

Given there's a woman and a child in the car, the answer is NOT "Find a remote corner of a parking lot and start a gunfight.".

69 posted on 09/09/2015 9:11:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: hoosierham

Yeah, I always drive with TWO loaded guns in my car as a passenger. One isn’t enough for basic safety.

(Wish I didn’t have to, but for clarity’s sake I must, the above is sarcasm.)


70 posted on 09/09/2015 9:15:51 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

I guess I should have used “ride” instead of “drive” in my previous post.


71 posted on 09/09/2015 9:20:26 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: hoosierham

The dead perp knew it was the police and why they were onto him. He probably had the baby in the car to use as a human shield. Fortunately, he never had the chance. So long, sucka!


72 posted on 09/09/2015 9:22:41 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Albion Wilde

***”My greatest fear is it will be doctored ... to make India seem like she’s part of dark behavior. India was not of that element,” Best said. “Her upbringing, everything about my daughter — she walked the straight and narrow. She was a wonderful person.”***

Yes, momma, that’s why she bedded a felon after he got out of jail, because she walked the straight and narrow. /s


73 posted on 09/09/2015 9:26:56 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

You DO realize many of the “acknowledged gun writers” advise(d) having a backup gun?Which is a bit paranoid for most.

And one of the celebrated Border Patrol heroes and writer of gun books of the past thought it okay to destroy the reputation of an innocent man with a throwdown gun rather than “ruin the career of a good officer”.I can only hope his attitude was (and is) rare.

Bad cops put EVERYONE at risk.


74 posted on 09/09/2015 9:27:12 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: equaviator

If they will not respect the love of the Lord, which hates for them to scapegoat their own recklessness on everyone else, then the blame game is all that is left to restrain them. One or the other, they have to choose.


75 posted on 09/09/2015 9:30:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: hoosierham

I don’t think they were bad cops.

***Perry was recently released from prison after serving 12 years of a 13-year prison sentence on a malicious-wounding charge for shooting someone in the back. Court records show he also was charged with assaulting a police officer in 2000. In 2013, Perry was denied parole, in part, because he had a history of drug use and violent crimes and was considered a threat to society.***

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f6c2fc2f02064807924302ef02a1865b/police-cops-fired-car-not-knowing-infant-was-inside


76 posted on 09/09/2015 9:39:38 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Reno89519

Yolu need to take our medicine.

Oops! They don’t have medicine for stupid.

Read the story and you will see that they were being followed as suspects in a murder.


77 posted on 09/09/2015 10:09:37 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: FamiliarFace

I suppose 4 officers firing only 30 rounds total actually shows restraint these days;I remember the days of only 2 or 3 shots fired and only the criminal hit.Still not entirely convinced the move from .357 to semi-auto was a good thing.In my time on patrol the .357 125 JHP had been shown to stop the subject on ONE shot well over 90% of incidents.

Perrywas obviously not good.I just question the police tactics and the propensity to dress and act like military


78 posted on 09/09/2015 10:30:48 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: old curmudgeon

I seem to recall police in a few other cases pumping lots of bullets into cars and persons on just suspicion;i find that troubling.

Not saying Perry was a good guy.


79 posted on 09/09/2015 10:57:19 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham
So because some cop in Cleveland was trigger happy, every single cop is?

The investigation will give some answers, but I would bet:

Cops trailing someone for 30 minutes had a reason to do so.

Cops trailing someone for 30 minutes would call in the tag for information if they did not already know who they were following.

In either case they would know who he was and that he had a record and convictions for violence against cops.

Cops do not trail people for no reason.

80 posted on 09/09/2015 11:14:31 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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