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Levin: Conservatives Must Become ‘Most Effective Group of Activists the World Has Ever Seen’
CNS News ^ | Sept 8 2015 | Sam Dorman

Posted on 09/08/2015 4:41:27 PM PDT by Whenifhow

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Levin: Conservatives Must Become Largest & Most Effective Group Of Activists The World Has Ever Seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THpHUSz4OT4

1 posted on 09/08/2015 4:41:27 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

He is correct.


2 posted on 09/08/2015 4:43:20 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Whenifhow

Im ready but conservatism must be clearly defined....so that ends that discussions LOL


3 posted on 09/08/2015 4:44:57 PM PDT by rrrod (Just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
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To: Whenifhow

That’s awfully hard to do when you can’t find two conservatives who think the other is “A Real Conservative”.


4 posted on 09/08/2015 4:45:02 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Teddy Roosevelt 2016.)
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To: Whenifhow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THpHUSz4OT4

HOORAY Mark


5 posted on 09/08/2015 4:46:00 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I agree.


6 posted on 09/08/2015 4:49:36 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Recall Gov. Nikki Haley, aka Nimrata Randhawa)
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To: Whenifhow

Mark is right on.


7 posted on 09/08/2015 4:51:42 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Whenifhow

Levin nails it, as usual.


8 posted on 09/08/2015 4:53:08 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Whenifhow

9 posted on 09/08/2015 4:54:08 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Whenifhow

Yeah but they aren’t. Unlike leftists they are unwilling to “cause trouble” or to insist that others listen to their beliefs. Usually the excuse is they have jobs, etc.


10 posted on 09/08/2015 4:55:52 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Whenifhow

If it has its defects, it is said, they can be best amended when they are experienced. But remember, when the people once part with power, they can seldom or never resume it again but by force. Many instances can be produced in which the people have voluntarily increased the powers of their rulers; but few, if any, in which rulers have willingly abridged their authority. This is a sufficient reason to induce you to be careful, in the first instance, how you deposit the powers of government.

How far the clause in the 8th section of the 1st article may operate to do away all idea of confederated states, and to effect an entire consolidation of the whole into one general government, it is impossible to say. The powers given by this article are very general and comprehensive, and it may receive a construction to justify the passing almost any law. A power to make all laws, which shall be necessary and proper, for carrying into execution, all powers vested by the constitution in the government of the United States, or any department or officer thereof, is a power very comprehensive and definite [indefinite?], and may, for ought I know, be exercised in a such manner as entirely to abolish the state legislatures. Suppose the legislature of a state should pass a law to raise money to support their government and pay the state debt, may the Congress repeal this law, because it may prevent the collection of a tax which they may think proper and necessary to lay, to provide for the general welfare of the United States? For all laws made, in pursuance of this constitution, are the supreme lay of the land, and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of the different states to the contrary notwithstanding. — By such a law, the government of a particular state might be overturned at one stroke, and thereby be deprived of every means of its support.

It is not meant, by stating this case, to insinuate that the constitution would warrant a law of this kind; or unnecessarily to alarm the fears of the people, by suggesting, that the federal legislature would be more likely to pass the limits assigned them by the constitution, than that of an individual state, further than they are less responsible to the people. But what is meant is, that the legislature of the United States are vested with the great and uncontroulable powers, of laying and collecting taxes, duties, imposts, and excises; of regulating trade, raising and supporting armies, organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, instituting courts, and other general powers. And are by this clause invested with the power of making all laws, proper and necessary, for carrying all these into execution; and they may so exercise this power as entirely to annihilate all the state governments, and reduce this country to one single government. And if they may do it, it is pretty certain they will; for it will be found that the power retained by individual states, small as it is, will be a clog upon the wheels of the government of the United States; the latter therefore will be naturally inclined to remove it out of the way. Besides, it is a truth confirmed by the unerring experience of ages, that every man, and every body of men, invested with power, are ever disposed to increase it, and to acquire a superiority over every thing that stands in their way. This disposition, which is implanted in human nature, will operate in the federal legislature to lessen and ultimately to subvert the state authority, and having such advantages, will most certainly succeed, if the federal government succeeds at all. It must be very evident then, that what this constitution wants of being a complete consolidation of the several parts of the union into one complete government, possessed of perfect legislative, judicial, and executive powers, to all intents and purposes, it will necessarily acquire in its exercise and operation.

Let us now proceed to enquire, as I at first proposed, whether it be best the thirteen United States should be reduced to one great republic, or not? It is here taken for granted, that all agree in this, that whatever government we adopt, it ought to be a free one; that it should be so framed as to secure the liberty of the citizens of America, and such an one as to admit of a full, fair, and equal representation of the people. The question then will be, whether a government thus constituted, and founded on such principles, is practicable, and can be exercised over the whole United States, reduced into one state?

Anti-federalist: Brutus #1


11 posted on 09/08/2015 4:58:31 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Artemis Webb

Agreed. The circular firing squad is killing us. So tired of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


12 posted on 09/08/2015 5:06:57 PM PDT by proust
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To: Whenifhow

“An anti-government ideology disinvests from the common goods and those things that draw us together” - Barack Obama (in the link)

Not anti-government, Barry. DEFUND SOCIALIST collectives foreign and domestic. They are unsustainable.

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

https://www.federalregister.gov/agencies

DEFUND/DISMANTLE

Socialism Is Legal Plunder- Bastiat

The Results of Legal Plunder…

http://www.usdebtclock.org

6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt…

7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game. This is an essential point, and happily is attended with no difficulty. A sufficient number, properly disposed, can alternately legislate and speculate, and speculate and legislate, and buy and sell, and sell and buy, until a due portion of the property of their constituents has passed into their hands…

9. The management of a great funded debt and a extensive system of taxes…

10. “Divide and govern” is a maxim consecrated by the experience of ages, and should be familiar in its use to every politician…

11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks.

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/freneau/republic2monarchy.htm

Debates in the House of Representatives on the First Report on Public Credit 9–18 February 1790
James Jackson (Ga.)

But it is doubted with me whether a permanent funded debt is beneficial or not to any country.

The same effect must be produced that has taken place in other nations; it must either bring on a national bankruptcy or annihilate her existence as an independent empire. Hence I contend, sir, that a funding system, in this country, will be highly dangerous to the welfare of the republic; it may, for a moment, raise our credit and increase the circulation, by multiplying a new species of currency; but it must, in times afterward, settle upon our posterity a burthen which they can neither bear nor relieve themselves from. It will establish a precedent in America that may, and in all probability will, be pursued by the sovereign authority until it brings upon us that ruin which it has never failed to bring, or is inevitably bringing, upon all the nations of the earth who have had the temerity to make the experiment.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/875

DEFUND SOCIALIST collectives, foreign and domestic. RESTORE the republic…debt free.


13 posted on 09/08/2015 5:08:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Whenifhow

We conservatives work for a living so that is not an easy thing. Liberals have an inexhaustible supply of union funded workers and college students to use at will.

We conservatives also flee from battle... boy scouts change gay policy? Runaway! I’m guilty as many of you are, but when we protest by leaving an organization or school board, our spots are filled by moronic liberals and our effect is diminished.


14 posted on 09/08/2015 5:11:53 PM PDT by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever. Trump is the only hope.)
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To: Whenifhow
I've been saying this for years. Repugnants have gone to war lined up like the British in the Revolutionary war. They attached some false sense of honor to battle.

Our enemies, the liberals, are street fighters and guerrilla warriors. If we're going to salvage whatever remains of this pathetic country, we've got to get as down and dirty as the liberals.

15 posted on 09/08/2015 5:19:37 PM PDT by LouAvul (Liberalism, the bane of civilization.)
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To: bigtoona

This is how I see it. Listen to your heart and if you feel you can do something to help — whether it is to help with a call list, email list, or if there is a school board issue that you can speak to at that meeting.

Do what you can - it doesn’t mean you have to attend a rally. It can be as simple as educating others while you are at the school board meeting or other function.


16 posted on 09/08/2015 5:21:01 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

This article is a joke. We’ve lost it already. Activist Conservatism? I can’t get a group together to go protest at our senator’s office on a Sunday after church.


17 posted on 09/08/2015 5:51:43 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Whenifhow

I listen to Levin just about every night. I wish he would give more suggestions for conservative acts of civil disobedience.


18 posted on 09/08/2015 6:01:18 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Whenifhow

Civil disobedience in the sense of challenging caesar to put you in jail is stupid. Because caesar is more than happy to throw half the population in jail and tax the other half to pay for it. Why the stress on civility? Do the likes of john boehner, hairy reed, john roberts and dear leader really merit civility?

Thomas Jefferson was wrong. Governments couldn’t care less about the comsent of the governed. Governments derive their power from the OBEDIENCE of the governed.


19 posted on 09/08/2015 6:15:50 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is useless, and it makes you complicit.)
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To: Whenifhow

One thing gets in the way more than just about anything else. - Bashfulness. - Being too timid to open our pieholes and say, “I don’t believe in that because . . . . . . “. Adamantly and decisively. - Wanting everyone to “like” us. Face it . . . some people will “like” you, some won’t, others won’t give a fig one way or the other. Speak up without screeching or screaming.


20 posted on 09/08/2015 6:18:24 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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