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To: rodguy911
I agree with you on Libya, but the flow was there before, just not in the same numbers. The reality is that we have a global movement from South to North, from the developing world to the developed world.

Literally billions of people want to escape the grinding poverty, corrupt governments, and a sense of hopeless. The only future they can envisage is to move to the wealthier countries that seem bent on their own destruction by welcoming them in. When you reward something, you get more of it.

We are experiencing the same thing here with millions of legal and illegal immigrants, refugees, and asylum seekers who enter annually. We are being flooded with nationals from Latin America who seek the better life here. The lifeboat is being swamped here and in Europe.

These refugees/asylum seekers/immigrants bring their own world view and culture. They don't buy into the values and culture of the West. They want us to accommodate our views to their's. Hence the so-called virtues of multiculturalism and diversity.

I almost got physically ill this morning listening to the Fox panel discuss the migrant crisis in Europe and what the US should do. Will and Susan Page were especially obnoxious and wrong. It is why the political, media, and corporate elites have lost touch with the people. They are no longer Americans but global citizens who no longer have our interests at heart. There was not one dissenting view on the panel. And the explicit message was that anyone who disagreed with them wasn't an American. In fact, the panel mentioned that the GOP candidates couldn't express a view for taking in more refugees for fear of alienating GOP voters! Will blamed Trump as usual.

59 posted on 09/06/2015 7:25:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
That's a great point.
But you gotta admit things couldn't get much worse in places like Iran and no real mass exodus from there. My guess is if Qdaffi had survived you would not see the exodus you are seeing now. Like al sisi did in Egypt leadership makes a huge difference. Libya has the potential to use oil money for good rather than terrorism. They have a power vacuum.Someone has to fill it right now the terror types are leading.Egpyt may yet survive with al sisi,it remains to be seen.
63 posted on 09/06/2015 7:36:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: kabar

Just come in from outside. Been working since 0700 because as always, another scorcher in Lower Alabama... Can’t wait for cooler weather! Already getting hot for the day.

So, you’re right. People need to examine the political culture of Latin America. It is one of caste based on color—pure Spanish blood on top, darker below, with full blooded Indians and blacks on the lowest rungs. The Spaniards have always ruled, but when a leader from the lower classes emerges, he will be a socialist. Exhibit A: Hugo Chavez.

But the ruling Spaniard class also rules hard left. And by this I mean RULES. There is no room for disagreement with mutual respect. You are either with them or an enemy that must be defeated at all costs. Fidel Castro, Juan Peron, and now my own Catholic Pope Francis bleats for socialism.

However, it is not nature but nurture that causes this. Many Latins who become American can easily overcome this Leftist/Authoritarian tendency—Ted Cruz is a shining example. By American, I mean someone who dedicates themselves to the principles outlined in the Declaration of Independence.


66 posted on 09/06/2015 7:42:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: kabar

I almost got physically ill this morning listening to the Fox panel discuss the migrant crisis in Europe and what the US should do. Will and Susan Page were especially obnoxious and wrong. It is why the political, media, and corporate elites have lost touch with the people


And for being part of the “ intelligentsia “ very stupid, as they forget that this country was founded on freedom, and when many of our grandparents came here from foreign lands, they were escaping “ government controlled” thinking and mindsets.....

Exactly what is being pushed on us now.


67 posted on 09/06/2015 7:43:50 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: kabar

The US doesn’t seem to have a very good record with regime changes. I guess it started with Batista in Cuba and through the Shah of Iran. At least in my memory. Neither of those turned out to be in our benefit. Then we lost in Vietnam and now we seem to have messed up across the Mid East.

But, and this is the problem, with the influx of refugees across the globe, what should we do? The EU is in a mess with no borders and massive numbers of refugees and the US is in a mess with Central America, China and other refugees.

What would you suggest the answer is? I don’t relish the thought of sending people back to ISIS knowing they will get killed.


72 posted on 09/06/2015 7:51:16 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.)
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To: kabar
There was not one dissenting view on the panel. And the explicit message was that anyone who disagreed with them wasn't an American. In fact, the panel mentioned that the GOP candidates couldn't express a view for taking in more refugees for fear of alienating GOP voters! Will blamed Trump as usual.

LOL! I wonder if George Will with his phony intellect understands that he just CONFESSED that that they all know they are working against the will of the American people and that only he and his "elite" friends can/will decide what Americans must be.

OOPs, Georgie, now your destructive cabal is exposed one more time. Keep going Dipwad.

74 posted on 09/06/2015 8:01:32 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: kabar

I feel your pain, to quote the estimable Billy Clinton. It is really hard to watch these liberals acting superior and humanitarian when we know it’s for show and they really don’t give a damn.

And all afraid to take another view for fear of offending a group they believe in but which Trump has shown doesn’t really exist.


115 posted on 09/06/2015 10:42:54 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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