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To: Nero Germanicus

Again.

Your quote:

‘I prefer to look at facts: what has happened and what is happening now.
Based on what has happened with Obama and the theory that he was not born in the U.S., the challenges to his eligibility helped him with undecided voters more than it hurt him. That’s why he wanted to keep the issue alive rather than resolving it.’

Here are the problems. First, you state something as fact that you have zero evidence to support.

Second, the thing you state as fact is a mainstay fairytale direct from the moonbatiest of obot enclaves. It is NOT a fact. It is part and parcel of the ideology that drives the blindest Obama supporters to worshipful obeisance of their idol.

Here’s how it works. Obots—you included—begin with the following premise: Obama is liked and respected in general. More specifically, he is looked up to as a man of honesty, integrity and decency. *Therefore* when his truthfulness re his birth narrative is challenged, it helps him with voters.

Iow, voters hold Obama and his integrity in such high esteem that when someone challenges his truthfulness, it redounds to Obama’s benefit.

This is no more than moonbats projecting their own exalted and adulatory attitude toward Obama onto others who share not a scintilla of it. Rather, what you have is an electorate that was willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, but which was only too receptive to revelations of Obama’s lies and fraud.

The facts bear this out. The only effective tactic McCain ever tried on Obama was to expose his arrogance. That ad hurt Obama measurably and helped McCain by the same token. (Which is why McCain immediately dropped that attack and never used it again. Throughout the campaign he eschewed success and embraced failure—with foregone results.)

When Trump first launched the BC attack on Obama in 2011, he (Trump) shot to the lead in every poll. This is not bc attacks on Obama’s veracity re his birth helped O; it is bc they hurt Obama and helped Trump. That is a fact. It is also the reason Obama rushed out an amateurish forgery: Trump was eating him alive, and he had to do major damage control ASAP.

None of this, of course, registers with obots. They live in their own, separate reality. In that world, Obama is set high on a pedestal, and challenges to his integrity only make him greater and stronger.

Fine. You and your fellow obots can go on believing that as long as you like. Just stop spreading that garbage here. It stinks.


203 posted on 09/10/2015 3:34:14 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Two examples of how some Latinos viewed the Obama is ineligible movement.

“Birthers/Latinos shouldn’t mix.”
http://www.beinglatino.us/uncategorized/birthers-and-latinos-shouldn%E2%80%99t-mix/

“Birthers to Obama: Show Us Your Papers”
http://www.newstaco.com/2011/05/02/birthers-to-obama-show-us-your-papers/

The following is a comment on a political science research paper entitled “Why Do Asian Americans Identify As Democrats? Testing Theories of Social Exclusion and Group Solidarity”.
“One possible reason that Asian-Americans have been such strong supporters of Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 is that they perceive more commonalities between themselves and Obama than they do with Obama’s detractors. As the experiment results showed, Asian-Americans who believe that their American citizenship has been questioned are more likely to identify strongly with the Democratic Party. The Birther movement, which promoted conspiracy theories arguing that Barack Obama is not an American citizen, is strongly associated with the Republican Party, and basically nonexistent in the Democratic Party. Since Asian-American tend to be pissed off when their citizenship and their “Americanness” is questioned, the Birther movement could be a major reason why Asian-Americans have strongly supported Barack Obama.”
http://www.quora.com/Why-do-Asian-Americans-tend-to-vote-Democratic


Obama was faced with a huge demographic problem in running for reelection, his own polling data showed that he was going to get smaller percentages of the white vote and the black vote. We now know in hindsight that his white voters totals decreased in 2012 by 4% and his share of the black vote decreased by 2%.
He was able to make up for those decreases with increases in the Latino and Asian American segments of the electorate. In 2012 he increased his share of the Latino vote by 5%(66% to 71%) and his share of the Asian vote by 11% (62%-73%).
In both of those ethnic enclaves Obama successfully used his identification with recent immigrants to his advantage.
We all know that Obama is a disciple of Saul Alinsky and Rules For Radicals. In that book Alinski advises “take what your opponents think is your weakness and make it your strength.” The Obama campaign never dealt with ineligibility challenges from a defensive position, they used it to attack conservatives as racist, vindictive and unhinged.


205 posted on 09/11/2015 4:40:11 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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