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To: Nero Germanicus

Haha.

Here is your original statement:

‘When the campaign produced the first copy of the Certification of Live Birth in June of 2008, they placed the digital image of that document on the “Obama For America” [campaign] web site’

Hmmm. No mention of DailyKos. In fact, to read your statement, the COLB was never released to Kos. It “first” appeared on Obama’s campaign website.

Well that is a flat lie. It FIRST appeared on Kos.

Now why would you lyingly omit that? Is it bc Kos is one of the moonbattiest, most insane, hate-driven far-left websites on the internet? Is it uncomfortable to explain why Obama would pick that site to debute an ‘official’ release?

Or is there more involved in your dishonest omission of Kos?

There is more. Here is a Kos post, from moments before the entire thread was pulled, that contains more facts you dishonestly ommitted:

‘Birth Certificate is an Obvious Fake (0+ / 0-)

Sorry to disabuse you folks, but this birth certificate on dailykos is an obvious fake.

The fake “birth certificate” just appeared Thursday morning on dailykos without any reference as to who released it or where it came from.

There is a link from the FightTheSmears website to “the truth” posting on MyBarackObama.com to it without any reference. (i.e. there is no “this is Barack Obama’s birth certificate provided to dailykos by person xxx of the Obama campaign”)

There is no provenance explaining where the “birth certificate” came from. In Hawaii, birth certificates aren’t publicly available and reporters’ requests for one have been ignored for months.

There is no explanation as to whom vouches for its origins or its authenticity.

The certificate number is blacked out. Why?

There are image artifacts consistent with forgeries and image processing. It’s not a real, unprocessed scan of a birth certificate.
It’s not certified. Hawaii state code provides that certificates issued by the department of health be certified:

“§338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof. (b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original,...”

This certificate is what the Hawaii DOH calls a “Late” Certificate of Birth, and it is not an original Birth Certificate for a birth recorded near the date of actual birth. In Hawaii, anyone can claim they were born there and submit the evidence years after the birth to obtain a late “Certificate of Birth”.

http://hawaii.gov/...

“Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration? As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration: Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth.

Doe the Obama campaign have a statement on this uncertified “birth certificate?”

Isn’t this Obama’s “birth certificate” issue getting to be kind of strange by now?

How can a man run for President without disclosing his birth certificate?

Why does an anonymous, no-provenance, obviously fake scan of an uncertified birth certificate appear on DailyKos, a fanatically pro-Obama blog?

Why won’t the Obamas or the Obama campaign just formally and transparently release a certified copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate?

“It’s like these guys take pride in being ignorant.” - Barack Obama

by AsperGirl on Fri Jun 13, 2008 at 08:05:30 AM PDT’

Do you see how hard you work to be dishonest? A ‘messenger,’ which you falsely claim to be, would post a factual acct of Obama’s fraudulent COLB. But you simply post the leftist-liberal talking points, and hope you can deceive people. That is, obviously, your best hope of ‘demoralizing conservatives,’ to quote your own words.

[You left all the objective facts out of your second post as well. It was just more Obama propaganda.]


182 posted on 09/08/2015 10:16:13 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

June 12, 2008 vs. June 13, 2008. And the birth certificate was used on the Obama campaign web site as a fund raiser.

My goodness, you really are that desperate to win a minor debatng point aren’t you, poor baby.

Hey everybody, Fantasywriter was absolutely right that the Obama short form appeared on the Daily Kos website a day before it appeared on the Obama For America web site. Congratulations to Fantasywriter for this stunning revelation.


185 posted on 09/08/2015 12:32:09 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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