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IAF keen on US Scorpion aircraft offer
THE FINANCIAL EXPRESS ^ | September 4, 2015 | Huma Siddiqui

Posted on 09/04/2015 9:20:56 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

After asking state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) to stop work on the intermediate jet trainers (IJT), the Indian Air Force (IAF) is now keen on the US offer of Textron’s AirLand Scorpion light-attack and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft.

The IAF badly needs an IJT due to delays by HAL, which has been working on an IJT since 1997. Senior IAF officials believe that the twin-seat platform of the Textron’s ISR aircraft can also be used as an intermediate jet trainer.

Sources have indicated during the forthcoming visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the US from September 22 to 28, besides a likely visit to the Boeing headquarters, military trade between the two countries will be high on the agenda, including the ISR aircraft, 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache and 15 Boeing CH-47F Chinook helicopters, armoured vehicles and other platforms.

According to officials, when Modi meets with US President Barack Obama on September 28 for bilateral discussions, the two leaders will also review progress in the four ‘pathfinder’ technologies that the US had agreed to transfer to India under the Defence Trade and Technology Initiative (DTTI). These include the know-how to co-develop and jointly manufacture AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven battlefield unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and roll-on/roll-off ISR modules for the IAF’s 11 Lockheed Martin C-130J-30 transport aircraft.

The two technical working groups set up earlier in 2015 to jointly develop aircraft engines and electromagnetic aircraft launch systems (EMALS) for aircraft carriers will be on the table for reviewing the progress.

Under the timeline indicated by HAL earlier, the indigenous IJTs were to be inducted in the IAF this year. However, a lot of tests of the machine are still not done and issues related to the specifications given by the customer have not been met.

The IJT is aimed at providing high-speed training for IAF pilots entering the second stage of training. Fresh cadets begin flight training in a basic trainer aircraft (BTA) and then on an IJT before moving on to an advanced jet trainer (AJT) to finally learn the art of combat flying.

When US defence secretary Ashton Carter visited India earlier this year, the two sides inked a 10-year India-US Defence Framework Agreement and fast-tracked the DTTI, under which the two countries will co-develop and co-produce military equipment in India.

It was during this visit in June that the US offered the Textron AirLand Scorpion aircraft. It is estimated that Textron’s Scorpion would cost less than $20 million to procure and around $3,000 per hour to operate. The US company has set a sales target of 2,000 platforms to international operators over the coming years.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; iaf; scorpion; textron

1 posted on 09/04/2015 9:20:56 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks like an F15 mated with an A10


2 posted on 09/04/2015 9:25:43 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Weird, cheap A-10 like Burt Rutan design, never built:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG9LlHcX8lg

Model 151 “Mudfighter”.

Lots of unique stuff on this one.


3 posted on 09/04/2015 9:27:36 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Crazieman

I was thinking the same thing .


4 posted on 09/04/2015 9:43:11 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ah!.. Pointy nosed Wart-Weasle.. A-2 1/2


5 posted on 09/04/2015 9:44:14 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Crazieman

Probably doesn’t have any cockpit armor.


6 posted on 09/04/2015 9:47:33 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Thanks so much for all of your posts over all the years. I always enjoy them.


7 posted on 09/04/2015 10:21:15 PM PDT by datura
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To: smokingfrog
Probably doesn’t have any cockpit armor.

Why would it need cockpit armor? The jet's only purpose is for training. It's not used for any kind of combat missions.
8 posted on 09/04/2015 10:23:56 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

The Indians may use it as a trainer, but that’s not its original design purpose.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textron_AirLand_Scorpion


9 posted on 09/04/2015 10:35:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Oh yea, I remember this one now. It was proposed as a replacement for the A10, but could only carry a small portion of the load, less munitions and fuel, had less loiter time, and was missing the cannon. It also has two pilots instead of one, and was not nearly as well armored.

It’s only plus point was that it’s decently cheaper.


10 posted on 09/04/2015 10:51:22 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: smokingfrog

I dont think they armor up trainer jets.


11 posted on 09/05/2015 12:01:13 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: gaijin

Amazing. Thank you.

The politics of weapons procurement is very complicated. A small player has little chance selling something cheap that would replace something expensive. The politics is oriented towards making stuff as expensive as possible because the more money spent the more prestige and the more promotions. Also, the officers involved are always looking for a cushy, status job when they retire.

The players are congress critters, military officers and lobbyists. The price of entry is probably more than this entire program cost. I wonder how he got it funded in the first place.


12 posted on 09/05/2015 2:36:32 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Svartalfiar
It was proposed as a replacement for the A10, but could only carry a small portion of the load, less munitions and fuel, had less loiter time, and was missing the cannon. ... and was not nearly as well armored

But the F-35 already meets those specifications

13 posted on 09/06/2015 8:41:46 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Palins are better parents than Clintons.)
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