Jeb, get ahold of yourself

Yahoo Politics ^ | 8/27/15 | Matt Bai

[jimbo123]

Despite what you may have read or watched or come across in a fortune cookie, Donald Trump isn’t actually running away with the Republican nomination, and the only thing he’s “dominating” right now is media coverage. Here’s some perspective for you: As late as October 2011, a pizza magnate named Herman Cain was leading the Republican field with roughly 30 percent of the vote, or about the same as Trump’s zenith in recent polls.

The main difference is that Mitt Romney had locked down the establishment vote in 2011 and was running just a few points behind. Trump, on the other hand, looks like the Big Kahuna mainly because the vast majority of the Republican vote remains divided among more than a dozen serious competitors, none of whom has yet managed to pull away from the pack.

In other words, Trump isn’t really winning the presidential contest so much as all the other candidates are losing it. And no one is losing it faster or with more determination than Jeb Bush.

It was a spectacularly bad week for Bush, who has dropped to around 10 percent in both national and New Hampshire polls. (The latter matters more than the former.)

First he tried to out-Trump Trump on illegal immigration by decrying so-called anchor babies. Then he tried to clean that up, in a petulant news conference, by saying the whole problem really started with Asians. Because, you know, what Republicans really need right now is another massive nonwhite segment of society that won’t vote for them.

[central_va]

Every time when I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face getting clearer
The past is gone
It went by, like dusk to dawn
Isn’t that the way
Everybody’s got the dues in life to pay

I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it’s everybody sin
You got to lose to know how to win

Half my life
Is books, written pages
Live and learn from fools and
From sages
You know it’s true, oh
All these feelings come back to you

Sing with me, sing for the years
Sing for the laughter, sing for the tears
Sing with me, just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

Yeah, sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
Sing with me, just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

Dream on
Dream on
Dream on
Dream until your dreams come true
Dream on
Dream on
Dream on
Dream until your dreams come true
Dream on
Dream on
Dream on
Dream on
Dream on
Dream on
Dream on

Sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
Sing with me, just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away
Sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
Sing with me, just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

Songwriters
STEVEN TYLER

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[DaveA37]

“I........... Trump isn’t really winning the presidential contest so much as all the other candidates are losing it.”...

So then, you’re saying that all the other candidates are “losers”? If Trump is supposedly as far ahead as is being reported, what other candidate, including Bush, will even get close to him? Listen to what the people who support Trump are saying when they put him that far out front. By the way, I’m not supporting Trump.

[I want the USA back]

Do you believe anything on Yahoo news?

[inkfarmer]

"Despite what you may have read or watched or come across in a fortune cookie, Donald Trump isn’t actually running away with the Republican nomination"

Despite what the author thinks, Trump is actually running away with the nomination. I said it, therefore it is so.

[SubMareener]

The thing that is really bugging the GOPe is that the multiplicity of candidates was their plan to get JEB! in with 20% of the vote. Donald Trump has co-opted their plan.

[jimbo123]

Liberals are mad at Jeb’s early collapse. It wasn’t supposed to happen until AFTER Jeb was the nominee.

[Qiviut]

This is a pretty good article with the historical context, but it ends “You’re a Bush. You’re supposed to be the candidate of the much-maligned, level-headed establishment. It’s time to start acting like it.”

What this author and most others fail to grasp is that the current movement and support for Trump (I disagree with his opinions as to why Trump is doing so well) is ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT. Jeb is thoroughly identified with the GOP Establishment & the status quo - i.e. bowing to Obama & being outwitted by the Dems on everything & he perfectly reflects their weakness, lack or will, cronyism and being out of touch with ‘we the people’. These behaviors & characteristics won’t “play” any more with a good segment of the Repub voting population. Jeb can hang around and hope for Trump to implode or go up in flames and it still won’t help him. He is primarily same ‘ol, same ‘ol and to further make his prospects worse, he is blah, low energy (thank you Trump for that description), dynastic (we are not a monarchy), and he absolutely will not take the dramatic, bold steps necessary to reverse the lawless, bold, America-wrecking actions that Obama has taken. Jeb can also show his “love” for illegal aliens in his personal life, but AMERICANS, not “bi-culturals” want borders, which to be effective, will not be ‘loving’. If Jeb is the Repub nominee by hook or crook, it will be the last nail in the coffin for the GOP, IMO.

[inkfarmer]

Liberals are mad at Jeb’s early collapse. It wasn’t supposed to happen until AFTER Jeb was the nominee.

good one.

[gr8eman]

What you wrote is common sense to me and everyone else outside the beltway and in teacher’s lounges (so, I guess it is actually uncommon sense). To me, that is the biggest value of Trump’s run...he has basically smoked out all the liberal elites who have been hiding behind the R.

[Will88]

As late as October 2011, a pizza magnate named Herman Cain was leading the Republican field with roughly 30 percent of the vote, or about the same as Trump’s zenith in recent polls.

Irrelevant to Trump's situation. Cain led the field for a week or two, after Rick Perry and a few others had crashed out of the lead. The lead in 2012 changed several times in two or three months. Trump has been leading the polls for about two months now and is growing in support.

[Starboard]

Thank you. Yahoo News is nothing but liberal propaganda of the most blatant kind.

[Fiji Hill]

As late as October 2011, a pizza magnate named Herman Cain was leading the Republican field with roughly 30 percent of the vote, or about the same as Trump’s zenith in recent polls.

The moment the media found a skeleton in Cain's closet, he folded like the French army at the Battle of Sedan. You won't expect that from Trump.

[TornadoAlley3]

Trump is Trump. Not Cain or Romney.

[Farmer Dean]

Jeb,get ahold of yourself.But not in public please.there are still laws about that.

[Dr. Sivana]

Trump is Trump. Not Cain or Romney.

Exactly. Who knows how far Cain would have gone without the "eruptions"? I actually gave to the campaign and sported the bumper sticker (in Madison, in a sea of anti- Scott Walker cars).

I like to say that Trump is "Macaca-proof". The same stuff that can sink a Cain or a George Allen Jr. don't affect a Trump in the same way. He is selling himself on different terms, and to a different segment of the voting public.

If a string of Megyn Kellys came out with all sorts of sordid tales of things "The Donald" had done with them, he'd likely be able to dispute it more effectively, or even laugh it off with a "that was then", and make it stick. He never has run as the boy scout that Cain did.

Trump also is able to change the narrative because of his ability to direct and redirect media attention. The media cannot define him, as he has had 30 years of defining himself.

Finally, it is 2016, and after Dole, McCain and Romney, this is the time when a lot of voters really, really mean it, and they are willing to take a ride with the guy with the money, chutzpah and star power to refuse to be steered (or at least to give that impression).