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The Bikers’ Point of View [Waco]
Texas Monthly ^ | August 26, 2015 | Jeff Winkler

Posted on 08/27/2015 4:47:09 AM PDT by don-o

“Somebody planted the sonuvabitch.”

That was one organizer’s immediate assessment after a bomb threat forced about 75 bikers and supporters to disperse from in front of the McLennan County courthouse Saturday morning. The bikers had organized a memorial for the nine people killed at the Twin Peaks shooting in Waco three months ago, but the gathering was also supposed to serve as something of a rally for the 177 bikers arrested that day. But now, thanks to a suspicious cooler and a suitcase, the group dissolved.

Clint Broden, the lawyer most publicly associated with the case, was scheduled to speak. And from the sounds of it, Broden’s address could’ve been illuminating if he’d had the chance to give it—”I will have a lot to say soon, I have been saving it up,” he promised on the event flyer.

It’s still unclear what happened on May 17. Most of the national attention the shootout between cops and bikers garnered focused on the two clubs involved, the Bandidos and the Cossacks—essentially turning into PR campaigns for both sides, with law enforcement and bikers offering two very different interpretations of biker culture. -

(Excerpt) Read more at texasmonthly.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: paranoia; tinfoil; waco
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1 posted on 08/27/2015 4:47:09 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

“Test Case”

I.E. “If we can get away with doing it to these guys, we can get away with doing it to anyone.”


2 posted on 08/27/2015 4:48:58 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare; Travis McGee
“Test Case”

Yessir. Which is why I agree with Travis, who called this "the most important story in America". Which is why I continue to post it.

3 posted on 08/27/2015 4:53:16 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Darksheare
“If we can get away with doing it to these guys, we can get away with doing it to anyone.”

Precisely. This is an intimidation tactic, just as Ruby Ridge and the first Waco Massacre were.

4 posted on 08/27/2015 5:03:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: don-o

For some reason (Branch Dravidians) I cannot help but think there is a Federal component somewhere in this story.

This whole story stinks to high heaven of a Federal operation.


5 posted on 08/27/2015 5:16:32 AM PDT by Tupelo (Trump is no Reagan, but he is a fighter.")
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To: don-o

It is important but there are only about 4 of us still interested. Not counting TG.


6 posted on 08/27/2015 5:18:41 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: don-o

Are these guys still in jail waiting for a court date?


7 posted on 08/27/2015 5:23:46 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: wastoute

There are more.
It seemed like only a few people cared during the Duke LaCrosse hoax, but the threads finally got busier when there were major developments.


8 posted on 08/27/2015 5:31:40 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Lady Heron
Are these guys still in jail waiting for a court date?

All but, I think, one or two have been released on reduced bonds.

9 posted on 08/27/2015 5:37:42 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: wastoute

Make that 5.


10 posted on 08/27/2015 5:38:32 AM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: printhead

I have had several people contact me privately that while they read the Waco threads, they will not post due to the horrible, trollish and plain nasty behavior of an small but persistent number of monomaniacs.


11 posted on 08/27/2015 5:50:34 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: printhead; don-o

Frankly, anything TM thinks is important gets my attention.


12 posted on 08/27/2015 6:25:35 AM PDT by wita
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To: Tupelo

According to early reports the ATF were there at Twin Peaks. Considering Swanton’s CV (unit commended for assistance rendered to Feds after the last Waco Massacre), it should have been like old home week.


13 posted on 08/27/2015 6:36:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Darksheare

I sure hope so. I want the police to “get away” with stopping anyone who starts a massive brawl and shootout in the middle of a mall parking lot.


14 posted on 08/27/2015 6:51:28 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman; Alaska Wolf

Yes, because ambushing people and then setting excessive bail is just so wunnerful.


15 posted on 08/27/2015 7:11:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

I have no problem with police “ambushing” gangsters who started a broad daylight shootout, endangering innocent bystanders.

As for the bail, cry me a friggin river. Do you also protest when mafiosos get high bail amounts set?


16 posted on 08/27/2015 7:25:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: don-o

“Yessir. Which is why I agree with Travis, who called this “the most important story in America”. Which is why I continue to post it. “

The parent organization of the Bandidos Texas Confederation says the Cossacks started the fight.


17 posted on 08/27/2015 8:08:56 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Darksheare

“Yes, because ambushing people and then setting excessive bail is just so wunnerful.”

Even the bikers say the bikers started the shoot-out.


18 posted on 08/27/2015 8:10:05 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o

I have had several people support me privately that while they read the Waco threads, they will not post due to the horrible, trollish and plain nasty behavior of an small but persistent number of monomaniacs.


19 posted on 08/27/2015 8:11:53 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Very good, Patrick. Hurry up. You’re way behind. Get that narrative out there yet again, Sarge.

How’s the campaign going?


20 posted on 08/27/2015 8:18:09 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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