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The Bikers’ Point of View [Waco]
Texas Monthly ^ | August 26, 2015 | Jeff Winkler

Posted on 08/27/2015 4:47:09 AM PDT by don-o

“Somebody planted the sonuvabitch.”

That was one organizer’s immediate assessment after a bomb threat forced about 75 bikers and supporters to disperse from in front of the McLennan County courthouse Saturday morning. The bikers had organized a memorial for the nine people killed at the Twin Peaks shooting in Waco three months ago, but the gathering was also supposed to serve as something of a rally for the 177 bikers arrested that day. But now, thanks to a suspicious cooler and a suitcase, the group dissolved.

Clint Broden, the lawyer most publicly associated with the case, was scheduled to speak. And from the sounds of it, Broden’s address could’ve been illuminating if he’d had the chance to give it—”I will have a lot to say soon, I have been saving it up,” he promised on the event flyer.

It’s still unclear what happened on May 17. Most of the national attention the shootout between cops and bikers garnered focused on the two clubs involved, the Bandidos and the Cossacks—essentially turning into PR campaigns for both sides, with law enforcement and bikers offering two very different interpretations of biker culture. -

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: paranoia; tinfoil; waco
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To: Darksheare

He has his hands full keeping track of all of his handles, now you want him to keep track of yours?


161 posted on 08/27/2015 7:07:36 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: sport; Darkshear

Darksheare: You said you have no problem with ambush shootings by leo.

You: Most people don’t, as long as it is the other guy that is ambushed and shot.

Darksheare has totally distorted that post .... as usual.

Posted with corrections per D request.


162 posted on 08/27/2015 7:21:18 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: wita

What happened to TM?


163 posted on 08/27/2015 9:19:51 PM PDT by Boomer (Politically Incorrect and proud of it. "Live Free Or Die" is not just a slogan.)
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To: Boomer

Left for awhile, He will return


164 posted on 08/27/2015 10:32:14 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Darksheare
I’d like an M8 greyhound but with modern running gear, surround vision, sound system, the works. That thread sounds like fun..

I had a pal from Tennessee who asked me about the possibility of replacing the mogas Hercules JXD 6-cylinder engine on his M20 [also a Ford 6-wheel Ford] with the 6.5 liter turbo-Diesel engine [400 cubic inches/190 hp] and 4-speed automatic transmission from a M1151 HMMWV/SOCOM Ground Mobility Vehicle. According to my tape measure, it'll fit. He wanted to fit up a CROWS .50 gun mount, but I twisted his arm and set him in the direction of something better instead.

We shoehorned one of the 6.2 liter Diesels and 3-speed out of one of the original HMMWVs into a 1952 GMC M211 deuce-and-a half, which originally had a mogas 6-cylinder and a 2-speed GMC Hydramatic automatic. It worked out okay, and the next intended victim is a WWII DUKW. I'd stay with a 24-volt military system, and build a sound system into a very-modified CVC helmet. Maybe Bluetooth it?

165 posted on 08/28/2015 7:19:58 AM PDT by archy
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To: TexasGator
Bikers and family members have stated that policemen acted responsibly at Twin Peaks and probably save lives by their quick action in putting down the gang fight.

And if they hadn't said that, their family pets or kids would have turned up dead on their front doorstep, shot dead by those giving aid and comfort to their partners on the same side of the blue line of silence.

166 posted on 08/28/2015 7:24:03 AM PDT by archy
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To: archy

I’d love to drive that thing!


167 posted on 08/28/2015 7:36:42 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: TexasGator; sport

“Posted with corrections per D request.”

You know, outright lying like that is bannable?


168 posted on 08/28/2015 7:37:34 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: easternsky
Left for awhile, He will return

He's likely busy for a while.

169 posted on 08/28/2015 7:45:39 AM PDT by archy
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To: archy

Ah, Newton NJ.
Grew up around the corner from there in Vernon.
Not surprised at all.


170 posted on 08/28/2015 7:57:40 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare
I’d love to drive that thing!

It lives about halfway between Nashville and Memphis; it's daddy is fairly well known in the Country-Western music world.

If you can manage a trip to Memphis once we get the upstairs gun mount worked out, we could likely use you as a driver when we take it to the range [20mm or quad .50] for the first testfire.


171 posted on 08/28/2015 8:20:27 AM PDT by archy
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To: archy

*Waaaaant*


172 posted on 08/28/2015 8:32:29 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: wastoute
It is important but there are only about 4 of us still interested.

I'm watching closely, including the occupation overreach with the plants.
173 posted on 08/28/2015 9:32:14 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: PA Engineer

Don’t you get this picture of some 20 something with tattoos and pierced lips and hubcaps for earlobes sitting in his mom’s basement with a clipboard and 3x5 cards trying his best to manage different screen names and identities like nuclear engineer or electrical engineer. Surrounded by flies and empty pizza boxes and empty two liter soda bottles. Creating fictional, impossible histories like “patrolling Haiphong Harbor”, with “black palm trees in my back yard” “here in Massachusetts”. Can’t you just see it?


174 posted on 08/28/2015 9:48:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute
I was surprised to see palm trees in Switzerland.
175 posted on 08/28/2015 9:51:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
I was surprised to see palm trees in Switzerland.

I've been there. Lake Lugano. A bit of trivia for you.

Deep Purple - Smoke on the Water

The lyrics of the song tell a true story: on 4 December 1971 Deep Purple were in Montreux, Switzerland, where they had set up camp to record an album using a mobile recording studio (rented from the Rolling Stones and known as the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio—referred to as the "Rolling truck Stones thing" and "a mobile" in the song lyrics) at the entertainment complex that was part of the Montreux Casino (referred to as "the gambling house" in the song lyric). On the eve of the recording session a Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention concert was held in the casino's theatre. At the beginning of Don Preston's synthesizer solo on "King Kong", the place suddenly caught fire when somebody in the audience fired a flare gun into the rattan covered ceiling, as mentioned in the "some stupid with a flare gun" line.[9][10]

The locals kept telling me about it. Over and over and over and over again.
176 posted on 08/28/2015 10:22:56 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: wastoute

Nah. The most infamous of them is a botox queen. Really.


177 posted on 08/28/2015 10:23:45 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: PA Engineer
Great trivia, thanks.

I learned of the palm trees first hand. Had a Eurailpass, no itinerary. Planned a trek from Zug to Locarno, "around the Alps," past Montreaux, to Domodossola, to Locarno. Got off the train at Domodossola, surprised at the need to switch railroads. By sheer chance, no planning, took the Centovalli Railway. Best train ride ever. Stunning. Then drop into Locarno and see palm trees!

No itinerary, no hotel. Ended up staying in a suite above the restaurant at one end of the square. Midnight "curfew," meaning we had to be inside the gate, but the bar would be open until we'd had enough. Suite was 40 Swiss Francs, in 1991, and had a balcony over the semi-outdoor dining area. Lucked out, all the way! Took a trip up to the Madonna del Sasso the next day.

My favorite part of the world, what parts I've seen so far - Northern Italy and southern Switzerland. Great food, ancient buildings, spectacular scenery.

178 posted on 08/28/2015 10:42:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
I agree. One of the most beautiful places in the world.

I was there in 85. The dollar was strong with 2.4 Francs exchange.

People laughed at me when I came home. I didn't bring back watches. I brought back music boxes. They were the first real reproduction of music (historically, including sheet music). Analog and EMP proof (lol). The same craftsmanship as the watches and they have lasted much longer.

To this day visitors are drawn to them in my analog room. The analog room holds music boxes to Galileo thermometers.
179 posted on 08/28/2015 11:01:34 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Boogieman

:)


180 posted on 08/28/2015 12:24:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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