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The Bikers’ Point of View [Waco]
Texas Monthly ^ | August 26, 2015 | Jeff Winkler

Posted on 08/27/2015 4:47:09 AM PDT by don-o

“Somebody planted the sonuvabitch.”

That was one organizer’s immediate assessment after a bomb threat forced about 75 bikers and supporters to disperse from in front of the McLennan County courthouse Saturday morning. The bikers had organized a memorial for the nine people killed at the Twin Peaks shooting in Waco three months ago, but the gathering was also supposed to serve as something of a rally for the 177 bikers arrested that day. But now, thanks to a suspicious cooler and a suitcase, the group dissolved.

Clint Broden, the lawyer most publicly associated with the case, was scheduled to speak. And from the sounds of it, Broden’s address could’ve been illuminating if he’d had the chance to give it—”I will have a lot to say soon, I have been saving it up,” he promised on the event flyer.

It’s still unclear what happened on May 17. Most of the national attention the shootout between cops and bikers garnered focused on the two clubs involved, the Bandidos and the Cossacks—essentially turning into PR campaigns for both sides, with law enforcement and bikers offering two very different interpretations of biker culture. -

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: paranoia; tinfoil; waco
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To: don-o

I’m not a biker. See? That was easy.


101 posted on 08/27/2015 4:32:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Darksheare
Dude, you need to try out for this show:

The results would be HI-larious!

102 posted on 08/27/2015 4:33:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
"I have no problem with police “ambushing” gangsters who started a broad daylight shootout, endangering innocent bystanders. As for the bail, cry me a friggin river. Do you also protest when mafiosos get high bail amounts set?"
Still says what it does, pal.
You called the bikers that got ambushed "gangsters" and "mafioso" there.
Not anyone else.
Why is it so hard for you to admit that you said that, and have already determined guilt/criminality all on your own?
103 posted on 08/27/2015 4:36:04 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare
"You called the bikers that got ambushed "gangsters" and "mafioso" there."

Well, they weren't ambushed (you still can't produce any source for that, remember). As for what I called them? Gangsters, yes. Mafioso, no. I've already explained that mafioso reference to you twice, but you were too slow to comprehend, so I won't bothering attempting again.

"Why is it so hard for you to admit that you said that, and have already determined guilt/criminality all on your own?"

Calling someone a gangster, when they wear their gang insignia for the world to see is not "determining guilt", no matter how many times you try to equate them. You can call a pig a cat a thousands times, but it ain't never going to purr.

Maybe an example will illustrate that point for you, since you don't seem so good with abstract concepts. If you saw these three fine gentlemen approaching you:

I think you would agree you could say they were gangsters, based on their wearing of gang insignia, no?

104 posted on 08/27/2015 4:47:28 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

You also said you had no problem with them getting ambushed.


105 posted on 08/27/2015 4:51:34 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Boogieman

And those people in your picture, are THEY bikers from the Waco event?


106 posted on 08/27/2015 4:54:34 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Boogieman
Must be gangsters, right?
107 posted on 08/27/2015 5:00:07 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare
No, I said "ambushed", because that was your term and I was using it sarcastically. Again, I've already explained that to you, but as usual, you don't seem to have grasped it.


108 posted on 08/27/2015 5:04:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Can’t even admit to what you posted as quoted and linked.
Nice.


109 posted on 08/27/2015 5:05:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

No, those don’t look like gangsters to me.


110 posted on 08/27/2015 5:06:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Darksheare

I said “ambushed” (in quotes), not ambushed (without quotes).

There is a difference, as I have already tried to explain to you twice. I guess you really are that stupid.


111 posted on 08/27/2015 5:07:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Yeah, right.


112 posted on 08/27/2015 5:07:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Boogieman

And I quoted you, and you’ve tried wiggling out of what you said, and tried claiming you DIDN’T say it.
Why is it so hard to admit that you did?


113 posted on 08/27/2015 5:08:48 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

No, they are not, they are part of a hypothetical example I was using as an illustration.

I want to be REALLY clear about that, so you don’t misunderstand and try to say later that I claimed the Crips were at Twin Peaks that day.


114 posted on 08/27/2015 5:09:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Darksheare

You’re just going to keep chasing your tail aren’t you?


115 posted on 08/27/2015 5:09:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Darksheare

What, you are an authority on what I think now? Are you a mind reader?


116 posted on 08/27/2015 5:10:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wastoute

5. I don’t say much but i devour the info.


117 posted on 08/27/2015 5:12:58 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: wastoute

I’ve reading and learning all along. I am also not inclined to engage trolls. But I am interested.


118 posted on 08/27/2015 5:17:02 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: trisham

Do not recall interacting with you on this subject. What point are you trying to make?


119 posted on 08/27/2015 5:18:05 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Boogieman

LOL, So you can’t admit that you said it, still.
Meaning of “is” still.
Okay.
Fair enough.


120 posted on 08/27/2015 5:18:13 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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