To: Rockitz
Opinions of so called experts don't matter one bit. The opinions of the 9 justices sitting on SCOTUS do matter. The current jurisprudence is that birthright citizenship is granted by a literal interpretation of the 14th amendment.
Also, there is no appetite within the existing Congress or Administration to change this interpretation. Further, if there is a change and we want that change to be a lasting change, i.e. not changed the next time the Uniparty gets into power, then the 14th will need to be either repealed or altered. This is just a simple statement of fact.
There are two ways to accomplish this. Either by winning the next Presidential election with a candidate that will actively work to end birthright citizenship, or by an Article V convention.
To: taxcontrol
These nione justices did not so rule. Such rulings as have been handed down as in 1898 do not address the issue. The Constitution gives Congress plenary power to decide on citizenship with no input or correction from the Court or the President. The 14th excludes Indians from citizenship even though they are born in the geographic USA because their parents owe allegiance to a foreign power i.e the tribes with treaties between themselves as sovereign nations and the United States. That pretty much describes the current “birthright” issue and negates it.
10 posted on
08/23/2015 10:58:40 AM PDT by
arthurus
(It's true.)
To: taxcontrol
Good post. It reflects my own thoughts on the present political and social climate.
The 14th was not intended for the purpose it is being used. I have really tried to find when the abuse started...and can’t.
In any case, closing the barn door on this matter will be more than difficult.
11 posted on
08/23/2015 10:59:05 AM PDT by
berdie
To: taxcontrol
‘’a literal interpretation ‘’
Don’t you mean a -liberal- interpretation? The 14th Amendment concerned the children of slaves freed by the 13th Amendment & the 15th Amendment gave African- American males the right to vote.
12 posted on
08/23/2015 11:02:30 AM PDT by
KGeorge
(HELL no, we AIN'T forgettin')
To: taxcontrol
Actually, it is not so much the SC’s finding, as it is how law enforcement interprets what the SC states, and carries it out. Law enforcement could take “subject to jurisdictaiton of” very literally, and deport every one here illegally including their children back to the countries that have jurisdiction, that is the countries of which they are citizens or subjects, the country that must give them passports, the country where they have the right to vote, the country that can draft them into their military, the country whose embassy can intervene if they or their "anchor bobies" get into trouble in this country. I am so darn sick of the lies and obfuscation, and I think what makes me the angriest about this is that the schools have failed our young people so badly that they don't know these things, including some of the younger freepers. No one should be bamboozled by this, they should have learned this in high school!
16 posted on
08/23/2015 12:08:35 PM PDT by
erkelly
To: taxcontrol
then the 14th will need to be either repealed or altered.Repealing the 14th Amendment would mean the Bill of Rights would no longer apply to the States. That would lead to Blue States arresting all Conservatives, because the States would no longer have to comply with the 1st Amendment.
36 posted on
08/23/2015 5:01:57 PM PDT by
Repeal 16-17
(Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
To: taxcontrol
Five justices can turn this whole issue on its head. Elections have consequences. Stop the lying shyster bullshit about how we have to have an Article V convention or repeal of the 14th amendment.
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