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The First Postmodern Political Machine (The Clintons)
The American Interest ^ | August 21, 2015 | Walter Russell Mead

Posted on 08/22/2015 11:28:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 08/22/2015 11:28:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I don’t see much thriving going on-—


2 posted on 08/22/2015 11:31:08 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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Bribery.
They bribe everyone they can and so far it has worked out for them.


3 posted on 08/22/2015 11:32:02 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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That’s because you don’t work at the Clinton Foundation. LOL


4 posted on 08/22/2015 11:32:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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5 posted on 08/22/2015 11:56:47 PM PDT by Fungi
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haha true— monetarily they are thriving politically not so much...


6 posted on 08/22/2015 11:57:10 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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The instant Hillary! has no prospect of being President, she and Bill turn into doorstops. No more million-dollar speeches, no more bribes, nothing.


7 posted on 08/23/2015 12:08:47 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Hillary is about to be perp walked


8 posted on 08/23/2015 12:10:05 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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[Bill Clinton is charming and smart]...and panicking.

9 posted on 08/23/2015 12:16:01 AM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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Compare this with dynasties in old Europe like the House of Medici. Now that we are no longer a country of laws, maybe we will revert to a system of royalty and super rich dynasties. This could be another reason the ruling class wants third-world illegal immigrants. Culturally they would fit in with this system - most of them don’t understand self government or are afraid of the relative independence it brings. Instead, they are comfortable with the old system where they become obedient serfs as long as they are thrown enough crumbs from the royal table, or the modern variant of being given favors by some criminal cartel lord or a fascist or communist dictator.


10 posted on 08/23/2015 12:31:03 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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"Yes, it is partly her inner drive. Love her or loathe her, Hillary Clinton brings a focus to her political and professional engagements that is admirable and pure."

This line must have stopped everyone from going on. This screed was going to be every lie, every deception and every hyperbole of praise heaped on der Hildebeast one can heap up. Mr Mead praises the Clinton's creation of the postmodern "blue model methods" that is a political machine that's going to keep its "political life on something like an even keel." It is these "blue model methods" that is the root problem with the corrupt political machines of today. It is the Clinton's adherence to this political machine is what you see in crime syndicates which they they came from back in Arkansas. I predict it will be their undoing because America cannot stand what it is doing to its future.

11 posted on 08/23/2015 12:41:08 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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The greatest crime family in the history of the republic…HIllaryous Rotten Criminal & William Jefferson Criminal.

ESAD


12 posted on 08/23/2015 1:56:15 AM PDT by PGalt
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HRCjustice

Imagine true justice taking place

13 posted on 08/23/2015 1:59:25 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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It doesn’t hurt to have the media on your side.


14 posted on 08/23/2015 2:17:49 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("Nothing turns out to be so oppressive and unjust as a feeble government. " -- Edmund Burke)
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Clinton Family Dynasty - Life term in Ft. Leavenworth. Tha is where both Hillary and Bill are headed. Obama Family Dynasty not much longer and that is where they will be headed too!


15 posted on 08/23/2015 2:38:17 AM PDT by hondact200
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If the best we can do as a nation, then we’re through. As in, the fat lady IS singing. If the best among us is a Clinton, Bush, Gore, Chaffee, or any other hierarchical office holder, pack it in and crown somebody.


16 posted on 08/23/2015 3:32:40 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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Somewhat right, especially about the decline of parties and the rise of non-party and the rise of other structures. I've been talking about this re: Trump for months. But the Clintons do not have the social media presence Mead says---about one third are just bought.

Again, this is why Trump is the guy to beat her. He doesn't need the bundlers and isn't beholden to foreign interests.Moreover he badly beats her on social media and, despite their criminal operation, buries them in $$.

No one else on our side comes close.

17 posted on 08/23/2015 3:32:41 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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The author leaves out the most important part. The old media fully supported the Clintons. It is what enabled them and protected them.

Now that the old media has a new boyfriend in Barack, the Clintons are no longer completely sheltered by it.

The Clintons are a manifestation of the old media oligopoly.

I and others have called it the mediacracy.


18 posted on 08/23/2015 5:05:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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Somewhat right, especially about the decline of parties and the rise of . . . other structures.
First, there are the unintended consequences of the dysfunctional campaign finance “reforms” over the past thirty years that gutted traditional party organizations while empowering billionaires.
I joined the late, lamented Congressman Billybob in longing for the day when "the dysfunctional campaign finance “reforms” over the past thirty years” were declared unconstitutional root and branch:
Second, there is the synergy created by the intersection of the Power Couple and the Twenty-second Amendment, which limited Presidents to two terms.
Third, the Foundation vehicle allows the Clintons to attract enormous sums of money from foreign as well as domestic donors.
Under Article 1 Section 9, "No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.” Presumably, the Foundation is a money laundering device.

If the Clintons have a joint checking account, any money paid to him is accessible to her. And he, they, even have Secret Service protection and a presidential pension - arguably, they are still government officials in some sense, because of that. That argument could be used to say that Hillary already has been, in a very real sense, POTUS.

Fourth, the Clintons have captured the power of networks. Like Facebook, the Clinton network is powerful because almost everyone is part of it. Since 1992, when the Clintons stormed out of Arkansas to take the White House, they have been at the center of world power and fame. Everybody who is anybody knows them or knows of them. They can introduce anybody to anybody

19 posted on 08/23/2015 9:10:38 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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The remark, “she is a celebrity because she is a celebrity” comes to mind.

I suppose there are fans of that Kardashian woman who are passionate about her and her opinions that resemble the passions of the liberal political class for Hillary.

It’s the only answer I can come up with for her continuing idolization by the Left—she is their celebrity.


20 posted on 08/23/2015 10:47:11 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's yoIur plan?)
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