[Yosemitest]

"I don’t understand WHY you would drag Charles Murray ..."

I was simply responding to Ben Domenech's comment :

" The rise of Trump is an epic expression of frustration with the American political system, and it is a natural outgrowth of frustrations with America’s changing demographic
; the hollowing out of white working class values and culture,
as Charles Murray has documented extensively; and ... "

[sparklite2]

Your description of Murray as a snobby opportunist, or whatever that was, was wildly out of place. Murray is at the forefront of advocating the need to save Western civ, which is rather opposite to “also in denial.” Or am I reading something that you are merely quoting? If so, my apologies.