Are Republicans For Freedom Or White Identity Politics?

The Federalist ^ | August 21, 2015 | Ben Domenech, Publisher

[Secret Agent Man]

tell me anyone else in the country that is for white identity politics.

everyone else wants to tear down and destroy white identity everything and promote everything else.

[Secret Agent Man]

per this piece, it may make them white republicans.

[Secret Agent Man]

proud to have been declining the race card since 1990.

[Deagle]

Wow, from black politics to white politics - Just love the reach of our own politicians when trying to gather votes!

Wonderful world we live in...

[smokingfrog]

The Republican party isn’t minority hostile.
That is a Democratic false flag talking point

[antidisestablishment]

But their brand of conservatism is frequently xenophobic, anti-capitalist, vaguely militarist, pro-state, and consistently anti-Semitic.

You hear this FReepers? All you Trumpeters are anti-Semitic, racist, anti-capitalist statists. European politics proves it. So, there — nah, nah, nah, nah, nah!

[The Toll]

Being White is good.

[SmokingJoe]

So much garbage in this article, one doesn't know even where to start. The very first sentence for example:

Donald Trump could transform the Republican Party into a coalition focused on white identity politics. We've seen this in Europe, and it's bad

What? Where was this idiot when Barack Obama transformed the Democratic Party into coalition based on black and Latino identity politics, gays, lesbians, transgenders and all kinds of sexual deviants and freaks, accompanied by an assault on Christians and white people? He considers that good?

[Yosemitest]

Ben Domenech is another "suck-up" to the "Elitists' Mindset" who can't come to grips with the FACTS.
So he tries to excuse it with the typical "Race-Baiting" paint brush.
His "hero", Charles Murray is another political snob who's made his money out of selling colleges what they want to hear, who is also in denial.

So he, also, is trying to sell Liberals, and Liberals who are ashamed to call themselves Liberals, but want to sell the label "neoconservatives", what they want to hear.
They use "white identity politics" to try to SMEAR a REAL plan of attack to return this country from SOCIALISTS' POLICIES that are destroying us,
and back to the principles and ideas our Founding Fathers used to MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT !
Would they ever use the term "BLACK identity politics" ?
Of course not !
Ben Domenech is just as bad as George Will !

And what offends these snobs so much, is the very real possibility that they may lose their ILLEGAL ALIENS that are their baby-sitters, gardeners, house-keepers, and financially indentured slaves.
His statement

"The idea that America is going to endure the blood and moral outrage
over the deportation of 11 million people, including young children of illegals born here
who are constitutionally American citizens,
is absurd."

really shows what these educated LIBERALS are worried about.
Our Founding Fathers would have "tarred and feathered, and rode" Ben Domenech "out on a rail" .
But let's remind everyone of just who these writers are.
The word "neocons" is ONLY used by LIBERALS, trying to insult Conservatives.
The is no such thing as a "NEW" Conservative.
Conservatives ARE Conservative, plain and simple.

But read this"

Liberals, Conservatives, and Neocons — Learn the Difference!
March 12, 2014

Almost everybody is confused about the word "neoconservative" and its shortened form, "neocon."
I find that liberals/Democrats seem to use it as a sort of disrespectful form of "conservative,"
and probably have no idea the the words have distinct meanings.
On the other hand, I know of some conservatives who define it as "new conservatives,"
meaning people who were formerly something else, but have converted to conservatism.
Both are wrong.
As near as I can tell, "neo-" doesn't apply to any other word that way —
formerly not X, but having become X.
No, "neo-" almost always refers to an ideology that is different from the root word in a significant way.
Neoconfederates are not people who want to secede and become a separate country.
They want the ideals of the Confederacy to be applied to modern politics, more or less, but not all of them.
Neoliberal is a more vague term,
but it specifically applies to people who may have SOME of the attributes of liberals,
but who contradict liberalism in their advocacy of free trade and privatization
and other ideas usually thought of as conservative.
And, finally, neoconservatives are mostly those moderate cold war LIBERALS who defected to the Republican party when the Democrats got totally flaky with McGovern and his ilk.
Their ultimate origin, however, is not the Democratic party but the Trotskyite movement.



Jack Kerwick elaborates.

Read this:

Most "Conservatives" Are Secretly Neoconservatives
12 March, 2014, by Jack Kerwick, Ph.D.

A colleague of mine has drawn my attention to a Washington Post blog post — “Why Most Conservatives Are Secretly Liberals” — by a Professor John Sides, a political scientist at Georgetown University.

Sides agrees with fellow political scientists Christopher Ellis and James Stimson, co-authors of Ideology in America.
Ellis and Stimson CONTEND that
America is, at bottom, a “center-left nation,”
for while “30 percent” of self-described “liberals” are consistent in endorsing “liberal” policy prescriptions,
the same sort of consistency can be ascribed to only “15 percent” of “conservatives.”
And another “30 percent” of “conservatives” actually advance “liberal” positions.

In short, Americans may TALK the talk of “conservatism,” but they WALK the walk of “liberalism.”
That is, they favor Big Government.

Sides, Ellis, and Stimson, it seems clear to me, are “liberals.”
It doesn’t require much reading between the lines to discern this.
That they associate “liberals,” and “liberals” ALONE, with such virtues as “consistency” and such lofty ideals as “a cleaner environment” and “a stronger safety net” is enough to bear this out.
Yet in peddling the ridiculous, patently absurd notion that
“conservatives” see the media as PROMOTING “conservatism,”
the verdict regarding their “liberalism” is seen for the NO-BRAINER that it is.

There is, though, another CLUE that unveils Sides’, Ellis’, and Stimson’s ideological PREJUDICES:
They equate the term “liberalism” with a robust affirmation of Big Government.
They treat “liberalism” synonymously with its modern, “Welfare-Statist” incarnation.
There is no mention here of the fact that, originally, “liberalism” referred to
a vision that attached supreme value to individual liberty,
a vision in which government played, and had to play, a minimal role in the lives of its citizens.
And there is no mention of the fact that, if “liberalism” is now “an ugly word,”
it is because the very same socialists who made “socialism” an ugly word hijacked “liberalism” when it enjoyed a favorable reception
and visited upon it the same fate that they secured for “socialism.”

In other words, if Sides himself wanted to be bluntly honest, he’d have to admit that “liberals” are secretly socialists.

Still, though their premises are bogus, Sides and his colleagues draw the correct conclusion that
most “conservatives” are NOTHING OF THE KIND.
The truth of the matter is that
the vast majority of contemporary “conservatives” are neoconservatives.

Now, “neoconservatism” is a term that hasn’t the best reputation.
It has ALWAYS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL,
and most of its proponents have DISAVOWED IT to the point of, preposterously, condemning it as an “anti-Semitic” SLUR.
But George W. Bush and his party inflicted potentially irrevocable damage upon the label.
“Conservatism” is a more marketable label.

Nevertheless, the reality is that neoconservatism is indeed a distinct school of political thought.
Beyond this, it is fundamentally different in kind from classical conservatism.
Irving Kristol, the so-called “Godfather” of neoconservatism, an appellation that he readily endorsed, ADMITS this in noting both
that neoconservatism exists
and that “conservative” “can be misleading” when used to describe it.

Neoconservatism, you see, is THE INVENTION OF LEFTISTS like Kristol himself.
When the Democratic Party began veering too far to the Left in the 1960s, Kristol and more moderate leftists began turning toward the Republican Party.
So as TO DISTINGUISH THEMSELVES FROM traditional conservatives, they coined the term “neoconservatism.”

Neoconservatives, Kristol asserts, are “not at all hostile to the idea of a welfare state” —
even if they reject the “vast and energetic bureaucracies” created by the Great Society.
Neoconservatives ENDORSE “social security, unemployment insurance,” and “some kind of family assistance plan,” among other measures.
But what’s most interesting, particularly at a time when ObamaCare has DIVIDED the country, is that Kristol reminds us that
neoconservatives SUPPORT “some form of national health insurance.”

In all truthfulness, however, neither a degree in political science nor an IQ above four is required to know that
neoconservatism has always championed Big Government
for it is its foreign policy vision more than anything else that distinguishes it from its competitors.
For neoconservatives, America is “exceptional” in being, as Kristol puts it, “a creedal nation,”
the only nation in all of human history to have been founded upon an “ideology” of equality, of “natural rights.”
The U.S.A., then, has a responsibility to promote this ideology throughout the world.

And it is by way of a potentially boundless military — i.e. Big Government — that this “ideological patriotism” is to be executed.

Had the foregoing political scientists been looking in the right places, they would BE FORCED TO CONCLUDE that most “conservatives” are secretly neoconservatives.

So, you see that those WHO THEY CALL "neoconservatives", are really nothing more than the old moderate side of the DemocRATS.
It's just THAT SIMPLE .

[OldNewYork]

False dichotomy. Republicans can be for both. That’s what freedom is about, especially when you have every other kind of identity politics being played. Except with what is being called white identity politics above, it is going to benefit American blacks, American Hispanics, et al. A rising tide doesn’t just float some boats.

[Deagle]

No, but both cater to minority politics and that is disgusting! When politicians cater to Americans then I will listen (without skin/nationality references)!

[Jim Robinson]

We’re for freedom. And for Americans whether white, black, brown, red or whatever. Americans, not illegal aliens.

[sakic]

Besides America, previously.

[DoughtyOne]

Ben Domenech, Publisher...

What a long winded idiot.

Just call Trump a racist white bastard that wants to be Hitler and be done with it.

Where was all this uproar over Obama, when he came long?

He’s been ruling by edict, and where was the outrage?

They charge Trump might do the same thing and all of a sudden it’s tyrannical and just WRONG!

I’ve never seen a more liver-lipped bunch of “so-called” Conservatives in my lifetime.

Where was this fervor in 2008 and 2012 against Obama?

This writer reminds me of the neighbor dog that comes over to your front lawn to wipe his dirty ass.

Get this hound some Depends for fido, and send him on his way.

[montag813]

“White Identity Politics” sounds pretty good to me. Especially when the alternative is “La Raza Identity Politics”, or “Black Identity Politics” — which are apparently just find and dandy to advocate, for some reason.

[fella]

The media at the behest of their scared, political progressive, elitist masters think that they can trump Trump by dropping the threadbare racist card on him. The more they attack him the more it draws out all that haven’t voted in generations to vote for him.

[montag813]

Domenech is a co-founder of RedState.com with Eric Erickson.

In other words...you could stop reading this bilge right there

[montag813]

Compares Trump to Jean-Marie Le Pen. Nice.

Just like his partner Erickson compared Trump to a pedophile.

[Hugin]

You are overthinking this. It’s really much more simple. Neo-conservative is simply a perjorative term invented to tar anyone strong on national defense. The only other common use of the term neo in American politics previously was neo-Nazis. The use of the term is intended to link people like Cheney and Bolton with Nazis in people’s minds. They are also doing the same with the term “climate change deniers”. Obviously one cannot “deny” a prediction about the future, even if it were completely accurate. To accuse someone of denying future events is absurd on the face of it. However the left knows the only other common use of the term “denier” is “Holocaust deniers” who just happen to usually be, yep, neo-Nazis.

[Adder]

Republicans have held to the idea that they are unified by a fusionist ideological coalition with a shared belief in limited government,

yeah...except they don’t anymore. We elected “tigers” who couldn’t/wouldn’t blow the fuzz off a dandelion.