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To: nathanbedford

Thank you very much for the clarity and an exceptional post.

Challenging read and highly educational. I try to educate myself to learn the facts so I don’t get caught up in the spin, separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak. I’ve put it to use already in disputing some other readings I did after, so thank you. Bookmarked this!

That said, looking for direction for further studies of this subject. Especially for when candidates start fleshing out their platforms and promises to decide who I want to eventually support. Leaning Trump, but not too sure...trying to separate the realities from the populism.

I want to be able to ascertain promises as doable vs feel good fallacies. Ex, just watched a video on immigration. The whole thing was throwaway based on reading this article. So totally disregarded it. Probably would have accepted some of the premises prior to reading this article.

So birthright citizenship is a bust, no use persuing.

Concentrate on controlling immigration, current law, everify, and voting laws, yes?

Thank you again and I will look for your posts going forward.


35 posted on 08/21/2015 11:37:54 AM PDT by wildwoodla
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To: wildwoodla
Although its galls me to say so, I think, yes, we should proceed with alternative solutions for the reasons I expressed in reply #26. There are also time constraints to consider. The Democrats are feverishly trying to get these illegals drivers licenses so they can vote. That must be stopped but the Republicans in Washington right now are ill disposed to take action.

Just because I think the author of this piece has got it about right does not mean that I'm supporting the Republican establishment who want us to roll over and play dead on the issue of immigration. I just want us to understand what the law and Constitution say as best we can figure out without wishful thinking.

I believe it is probably wishful thinking to believe that we can convince the court consisting of four leftists whose vote is already in the bank and two unreliable jurists that everybody's understanding of the fourteenth amendment for more than a century was wrong. But even if we could accomplish that task thanks to the scholarship in this article, I think the victory would be limited to tourist babies and the court would no doubt impede enforcement in other ways. We have to remember that race is an issue and when race is part of the Supreme Court's consideration strict scrutiny is used and the conclusions are foregone.

Thanks for the kind words.


36 posted on 08/21/2015 11:54:51 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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