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To: nickcarraway

They are both nationalists.

I have said repeatedly that I would vote for Sanders before Bush or Rubio - the nation is that important to me.


35 posted on 08/20/2015 12:18:15 PM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Jim Noble
Nationalists? As I posted yesterday, here was George Orwell's take on nationalism vs. patriotism:

By "nationalism" I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled "good" or "bad." But secondly -- and this is much more important -- I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.

Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism.

Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved.

By "patriotism" I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseperable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.
(source: http://www.resort.com/~prime8/Orwell/nationalism.html)
46 posted on 08/20/2015 1:06:05 PM PDT by tenger (Trump vs. Sanders would certainly be entertaining)
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