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To: TBP
"The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means “owing allegiance thereto”..."

There's no need or justification to make the words into something else. It means exactly what it says, "subject to the jurisdiction". People that are subject to the law, and not people who are not.

44 posted on 08/19/2015 10:30:34 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

Illegal aliens are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” because they owe allegiance elsewhere, just as Indians were not covered by the jurisdiction clause until Congress passed a statute making them part of it.


46 posted on 08/20/2015 11:31:37 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: mlo

Illegal aliens are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” because they owe allegiance elsewhere, just as Indians were not covered by the jurisdiction clause until Congress passed a statute making them part of it.


47 posted on 08/20/2015 11:31:44 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: mlo
People that are subject to the law, and not people who are not.

Then there is no need for it. If the framers of the amendment had intended to make everyone born here a citizen, they would have done so, and the jurisdiction clause would not be there.

48 posted on 08/20/2015 11:33:16 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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