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Bill O'Reilly confronts Donald Trump: You can't 'deport people who have American citizenship'
Business Insider ^ | 08/19/2015 | Colin Campbell

Posted on 08/19/2015 8:17:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Fox News host Bill O'Reilly during an interview Tuesday night repeatedly challenged a key portion of Donald Trump's immigration agenda.

The real-estate magnate and Republican presidential candidate recently unveiled his multipart plan to clamp down on illegal immigration. Among other things, Trump called for ending birthright citizenship, or the right of anyone born in the US to American citizenship.

As O'Reilly pointed out, however, the US Constitution's 14th Amendment enshrines birthright citizenship into US law.

"That's not going to happen because the 14th Amendment says if you're born here, you're an American," O'Reilly said. "And you can't kick Americans out. The courts would block you at every turn. You must know all that."

Trump insisted that the Constitution did not grant citizenship to so-called anchor babies, a pejorative term used to describe the children of people who enter the country illegally with the purpose of having a son or daughter who would then be granted US citizenship.

"Bill, I think you're wrong about the 14th Amendment," Trump said. "And frankly, the whole thing with 'anchor babies' and the concept of 'anchor babies' — I don't think you're right about that."

O'Reilly was incredulous.

"I can quote it!" O'Reilly exclaimed. "You want me to quote you the amendment? If you're born here, you're an American — period! Period!"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; billoreilly; birthright; citizenship; deportation; trump
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To: SeekAndFind
We don't have ex post facto law in this country. Constitutionally.

Yes, I too sometimes wish we did.

41 posted on 08/19/2015 8:45:07 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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To: Kenny

You’d have to know how many illegals there are before zeroing in on illegal “anchor babies”.

So called “anchor babies” of parents in this country illegally have no legitimate consitutional claim to citizenship.

In fairness they should be given a choice to self deport or undergo post birth abortion. Congress could it the “Anchor Baby’s Right To Choose Act”. Liberals love that “right to choose”.


42 posted on 08/19/2015 8:45:52 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: NeoCaveman

Yes, strip them of their ill gotten citizenship in mass and deport their asses.


43 posted on 08/19/2015 8:46:49 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: SeekAndFind

Never heard Trump say anything about deporting American citizens. He did say that he’d deport the illegal parents of anchor babies, and that he’d try to keep the families together (the babies leave US with parents), but he did not say he would prevent anchor babies from remaining in the US if they had some situation which allowed that.

O’Reilly just being his typical blowhard self.


44 posted on 08/19/2015 8:47:38 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind
You don't do it retroactively. Every year someone in Congress introduces a bill to eliminate birthright citizenship. This year Steve King introduced one:

H.R.140 - Birthright Citizenship Act of 2015

Amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to consider a person born in the United States "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States for citizenship at birth purposes if the person is born in the United States of parents, one of whom is: (1) a U.S. citizen or national, (2) a lawful permanent resident alien whose residence is in the United States, or (3) an alien performing active service in the U.S. Armed Forces.

States that this Act shall not be construed to affect the citizenship or nationality status of any person born before the date of its enactment.

45 posted on 08/19/2015 8:48:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

BOR(E) thinks he’s smarter than he is. Trump is right but some of the “candidates” for removal will be sticky issues - send the illegal parents home and see what happens to those that don’t return with them...a start is a start and the discontinuance of the current twisted protocol will have a very positive effect.


46 posted on 08/19/2015 8:49:41 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind
" The courts would block you at every turn. You must know all that."

Patently false. Courts deport children born in this country all the time. In addition, during the depression hundreds of thousands of Illegals (and their families) were deported. Then again during Operation Wetback, well over one million, many of which were children born in this country.

47 posted on 08/19/2015 8:49:59 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: All
"I can quote it!" O'Reilly exclaimed. "You want me to quote you the amendment? If you're born here, you're an American — period! Period!"

That is not "quoting", it's "paraphrasing". Big difference between quoting and paraphrasing and Bill should know it, being such a grammar-hawk and all.

If he were quoting, he would have included "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" which is the clause Trump kept referring to when he said his legal advisors had a different interpretation of the 14th.
48 posted on 08/19/2015 8:50:38 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: silverleaf

No.

Even though BOR is dead wrong, he will not ‘lose’ because he will just cut Levin’s mike.


49 posted on 08/19/2015 8:50:41 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Persons born here AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF are citizens.

It will be up to Congress to pass a law prohibiting citizenship to the children of illegals, and then it will be up to the courts, ultimately SCOTUS, to decide what "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means.

My interpretation is if you are here on a valid visa, you are here subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. If you're not hear legally, you are not.

50 posted on 08/19/2015 8:52:20 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all in Bill’s new book, Killing the United States.


51 posted on 08/19/2015 8:53:42 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Electric Graffiti
Oh my......and you held Ogabe’s birth certificate in your hands. Right, Yosemite Sam?

I tried to find that video of BOR bragging all he had to do was contact Hawaii and they sent him a copy of that BC but it seems to have disappeared.

You wouldn't happen to have a link of it stashed away would you?

52 posted on 08/19/2015 8:53:43 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SeekAndFind

If we don’t deport all illegals from the USA and reduce legal immigration then the USA is done.

Immigration is the most important issue

Since 1965 democrats have imported 42 million legal immigrants from the 3rd world . that’s 42 mllion voters for democrats added to the USA.Now these are the worshiped “legal” immigrants.

In addition there are 30 million illegals. and how many of those vote or donate to democrats?

Ann Coulter in her book explains it better than anyone how immigrants are destroying the USA

http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676

The illegals explosion started under Bill Clinton. This cretin’s election is the exact moment when the country started the decline


53 posted on 08/19/2015 8:53:52 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade "trade in services" = mega more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I can quote it!” O’Reilly exclaimed. “You want me to quote you the amendment? If you’re born here, you’re an American — period! Period!”


Sounds like Michael Medved.

The GOPe veil is being lifted. They are exposing themselves left and right.

And no, if you are born here, you are not necessarily an american. The 14th amendment has a caveat, and anchor babies of illegals don’t meet the requirement.


54 posted on 08/19/2015 8:54:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Probably true that you can’t deport anchor babies who were born here under the current rules. The courts will never allow that.


Actually, you can. The 14th covers it.


55 posted on 08/19/2015 8:55:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Hojczyk
Ike deported 2,000,000 in the 1950’s I think I read that somewhere

The number deported was closer to 1.5 million. It was called operation wetback. The Mexican government was for the operation and cooperated.

56 posted on 08/19/2015 8:56:06 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is O’Reilly talking about the anchor babies - they can't be deported?

Are these illegal aliens a new breed of parents who will NOT take their children with them when they move?

What kind of people leave their children behind?

57 posted on 08/19/2015 8:56:21 AM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: SeekAndFind

...“Democrats have opened our borders to all manner of horrific Third World violence, crime, and disease. The GOP has supported and endorsed this vile activity every single step of the way. Trump has tapped into the fury of the American people over the unrelenting anti-American NWO push of our paid employees in government. Trump could win this on this one issue alone. Americans are tired of being betrayed by their government on both sides of the aisle.”...


58 posted on 08/19/2015 8:56:54 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: SeekAndFind

The 14th amendment has been grossly misinterpreted. All it was ever meant to do was bestow citizenship on freed slaves and their children.

I’m not a constitutional lawyer but I play one at home. So I’m going to say the word “jurisdiction” framed in the 14th amendment is where you attack the anchor baby problem.


59 posted on 08/19/2015 8:58:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: NeoCaveman

Don’t be so politically correct. But I wouldn’t have called them beans, personally I use the term wetback. I find that much more universal in usage.


60 posted on 08/19/2015 8:59:34 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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