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To: Prolixus
Here is the substantive material that the judge relied on to find probable cause - either that, or the judge relied on the "magic words" that substitute for evidence, in Texas.

Department of Public Safety Lt. Steven Schwartz, a 17-year department veteran, testified at the morning hearing that William and Morgan English wore patches that identified them as members of a group called Distorted. Another patch identified them as members of a support group for the Bandidos, which Schwartz said has been identified as a criminal street gang. ...

He said he thinks the Englishes were aware of the rift between the Cossacks and Bandidos and they were there that day as a show of support for the Bandidos.

However, under cross-examination from Looney, Schwartz said neither he nor other DPS investigators were aware that the seven-member Distorted group existed before May 17. Looney said that of the seven members, only William English has a hint of a criminal past, what he called an "old DWI."

Schwartz said they wore patches that said they support the Bandidos, so that tells him they are at least "somewhat involved in criminal activity."

He said he saw nothing that day and has developed no subsequent evidence to show the Englishes are involved in criminal activity.

Schwartz suggested the Distorted group and others who ride motorcycles in Texas might think it is safer to wear a patch showing support for the Bandidos as they ride around the state. ...

Schwartz agreed with Looney that the Englishes were cooperative and agreed to talk to investigators after the shooting. He said they told police that one of their friends brought a gun with him, but they left it locked up in the car.

"Other than that, all we have is that they were merely present at a murder. Correct?" Looney asked.

"Correct," Schwartz said.

My prediction has been that the courts will find probable cause regardless. If the courts found absence of probable cause, that finding would be used by plaintiffs in deprivation of rights claims.
39 posted on 08/17/2015 4:12:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

“Schwartz suggested the Distorted group and others who ride motorcycles in Texas might think it is safer to wear a patch showing support for the Bandidos as they ride around the state. ...”

I can understand that a little extra cloth would offer some protection in case of an accident but what is it about a ‘Bandido’ patch that makes it special?


40 posted on 08/17/2015 5:05:35 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Cboldt

>>> Another patch identified them as members of a support group for the Bandidos, which Schwartz said has been identified as a criminal street gang. ... <<<

Those Waco Style Police are pure death on bad accessorizing.

It still looks to me like a two or three dozen fools got into a fight and the rest of the folks were arrested for violating the Waco High School dress code.


42 posted on 08/17/2015 5:35:07 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
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