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Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's Republican supporters can only vote in polls right now but his state's university faculty are already voting with their feet--
1 posted on 08/17/2015 9:50:34 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
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“where tenure is an abstraction”

Abstraction? That’s the best word this guy cold come up with?


2 posted on 08/17/2015 9:51:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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I face uncertainty every day of my life.


3 posted on 08/17/2015 9:53:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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GREAT! Lets get a bunch of Consultant Adjuncts to teach who actually help the kids get REAL skills!


4 posted on 08/17/2015 9:53:59 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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I will say this: without tenure, I think my liberal colleagues would have purged me a long time ago. So tenure, in my instance (and that of many other conservative profs) has been a firewall to enable us to argue against the liberal system.


5 posted on 08/17/2015 9:54:36 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Academiadotorg; onyx; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

This is great news. We have too many leftie, lazy professors in this state.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


6 posted on 08/17/2015 9:55:17 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Oh noes! Where will they ever find enough over-educated nincompoops to fill the vacancies!?

It's not like the country has a glut of un(der)employed post-grads.

SARC tag withheld to confuse the trolls.

8 posted on 08/17/2015 9:56:43 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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“Who wants........where tenure is an abstraction”

You mean where your job isn’t guaranteed?


9 posted on 08/17/2015 9:57:28 AM PDT by markoman (The man with the rubber glove was....surprisingly gentle.)
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The poor abused little academics don’t like having to compete for a living. Cry me a river.


10 posted on 08/17/2015 9:58:30 AM PDT by AdaGray
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This is a hit piece.

"Kelly Wilz, an associate professor at the University of Wisconsin-Marshfield/Wood County"

Kelly is teaching at the lowest, podunk level of the UW System. No one cares if Kelly leaves.

Further, Walker's actions don't revoke tenure. His actions move tenure control from the legislature to the UW Board of Regents. This is a fake issue.

12 posted on 08/17/2015 10:00:38 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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his state's university faculty are already voting with their feet--

How many of them would ever, under any circumstances, vote for Scott Walker, Ted Cruz, or Donald Trump?

How many of them voted for Barry Hussein? Kerry? Gore? Clinton? Dukakis? Mondale? Carter?

14 posted on 08/17/2015 10:02:53 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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“Who wants to work in a state where tenure is an abstraction?”

Answer: professors who know they are good, and therefore don’t have to rely on a political job guarantee to feel confident in their skills and marketability.


16 posted on 08/17/2015 10:03:12 AM PDT by winner3000
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My master's degree is from our State U and my impression was that the part time adjuvant faculty was usually as good as and often better than the full time tenure-track faculty.

I also have a friend who was denied tenure the year after the students voted him "professor of the year". (He didn't publish enough.)

19 posted on 08/17/2015 10:06:54 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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It is a political move.

If not then they are leaving because they realized their competency will not pass scrutiny.


25 posted on 08/17/2015 10:18:34 AM PDT by dirtymac
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Kelly Wilz
Lecturer
Women’s Studies
715-346-3803
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28 posted on 08/17/2015 10:21:43 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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It is a hell of a note when a professor of lesbian studies cannot screw-off and not worry about losing her phony-baloney job, indoctrinating students.

A meritocracy is badly needed in academia!


31 posted on 08/17/2015 10:25:01 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Federal Government is nothing but a welfare program with a dress code!)
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There’s nothing abstract about it.


32 posted on 08/17/2015 10:25:54 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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Why do they need tenure? Are any of them refusing to carry the party line? If there are any, they are the ones that don’t receive tenure anyway!

It should only be offering protection to the differing voices, not for simple job security to those that are not willing to challenge the status quo. Otherwise, there is no promotion of thought, which is a tragedy in a University setting.


35 posted on 08/17/2015 10:30:46 AM PDT by CSM (White wine sipping, caviar munching, Georgetown cocktail circuit circulating, Perrier conservative.)
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There are bigger concerns in life than tenure!


41 posted on 08/17/2015 10:35:26 AM PDT by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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Opening up room for improvement. Perhaps new replacement hires will be the sort who prefer to teach academic disciplines rather than expensive frivolity and Revolution.


42 posted on 08/17/2015 10:36:18 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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Back in 1973 my American History professor, who was Chinese btw, really had vision for what was changing in the US. Probably because China had gone full communist in the late 40s but this professor would commonly pose the question to his class, regarding thuggish government tyranny, “at what point will YOU be ready to pick up a gun to defend your liberty and freedom?” Good thing he was tenured.
49 posted on 08/17/2015 11:07:07 AM PDT by drypowder
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